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Please post any changes you have about IP changes .... Reference: http://jaguarpc.com/forums/showthrea...threadid=10164 ...

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    Please post any changes you have about IP changes ....

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    So does this mean that some people will view the old IP and some will view the new one? If this is the case I will need to do something with mySQL but I need to know in advance. Also, what exactly do resellers have to do to make the name servers work? Last time we moved I had over a week of downtime because of a problem with the name servers and really don't want this to happen again (eventhough it was probably my fault).
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    I'm with Paul on the name server issue. I have resold accounts using their own name servers, so getting information ahead of time is extremely important to me, too.
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    So those of us who is just having a shared hosting plan and have the domain through Aletianic won't have to do anything but sit back and wait until all is said and done?

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    What do "normal" (non-reseller) JaguarPC customers have to do? Anything?

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    Please advise

    I am reseller but I have always used the nocdirect name servers when registering any customer domain names.
    What do I need to tell my customers?

    Thanks

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    I'm a novice when it comes to the ins and outs of IPs, DNS, etc. I understand the basics of that announcement, but the bulk of it is greek to me. How, exactly, does this effect those of us with a simple website (v### package, one domain name bought through Aletianic)?
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    yes, this is my question as well. I am just a single user. What will I need to do if anything? i.e. will I need to have my domain names currently housed with a different registrar point to a new DNS name server?

    When is all of this to begin? Novemeber?

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    I can't speak for Jag, but until he gets back here to reply, here's my take on his message.:

    Shared sites will broadcast two IP addresses while the transition is in process. This will have no noticeable effect on your site--it is actually a pretty common practice for large companies that load balance their sites on multiple servers (do an nslookup on microsoft.com and you'll see five or six IP's returned). In most cases each IP refers to a different server, but having two IP's pointing at the same site won't make a difference. Clients won't have to do anything special on their servers (as far aswith MySQL, etc.) because no changes to the actual server will be happening. With the last moves data was being moved between different servers, that's not the case this time.

    As for nameservers, Jag will need to notify their registrar that they are changing the nameserver addresses. When they do that it will automatically update across the board for anyone who's domain is using any of the JPC/Aletia/nocdirect servers. Regular clients won't have to do anything. Resellers with their own nameservers will also have to update the records with their registrars and all resold clients will be automatically updated as well.

    I hope I am reading Jag's post correctly, but based on my knowledge of the DNS system, that's what I'm getting out of it.

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    Having just survived the recent Hypermart debacle with my 10 domains, I get very nervous when I hear about ANY changes.

    Please reassure me that this change will have no detrimental effect whatsoever on my sites... I have been having a lot of timeouts lately as it is, plus recent email problems.
    Anne

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    Jason,

    thank you for yor help on this.

    Some of us still have not a clue what that means.

    I have a domain name registered somewhere else, and I just told it the dns was ns1.jaquarpc.net or something like that, and ns2, and people access the site just by typing in www.etcetcetc.com .

    In a case like this, do we need to do anything?

    Thanks,

    David

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    Probably nothing. Alhough if you're accessing ftp or your control panel via an IP address rather than your domain name, that will need updating when assigned a new IP.

    Note to Jag:
    The link in your other thread to here is yielding a 404 error at the moment. The one from here to there works fine.
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    Could someone comment on the effect this IP change might have, regarding Google and Googlebot visits? I'm no expert, so maybe I'm confusing things, but I thought I read somewhere, that Googlebot avoids DNS calls whenever possible, and generally tries to go directly to the IP address where the webpage was previously known to be.
    So, if a website moves to a new IP address, and if Googlebot tries to visit the old IP address and only receives bad gateway errors, then isn't there a risk that Googlebot will conclude the website has vanished. Is there a risk that your Google rankings and traffic could suddenly disappear, ( temporarily )?
    Is there a technologic solution that can satisfy Googlebots requests to the old IP for a while, until it does a proper DNS update and starts visiting the new IP?

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    All I can say, is the last IP address change I went through here seemed to have had no adverse effect on my different sites' Google rankings (some as high as they can get, others less so). I don't expect this one will affect things much either. But then again, your mileage may vary.
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