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Ref: http://www.punbb.org Has anyone used or installed a PunBB message board long enough to have an opinion? I checked out their web site and the ...

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    Question PunBB PHP Message Board Software

    Ref: http://www.punbb.org

    Has anyone used or installed a PunBB message board long enough to have an opinion?

    I checked out their web site and the message board there is faster than any other board I've encountered, however, I'd like to compare "real world" experiences before installing it myself.

    The concept is low graphics, low overhead, fast speed.

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    the Core of any of the Common BB systems run fast, my personal preferance is Invison Board. Which IPB was Ranked one of the Fasted in a Test conducted by .net mag

    But what slows any BB down is the SKIN you decide to use, not the System itself
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    I haven't tried punBB, but I can tell you from personal experience, all PHP BBS's run about the same speed because PHP is a scripting language, and they all basically use the same code.

    The main thing you should be looking for is security, since all BBS's have problems in this area.

    Personally, I like phpBB. I'm running 2.08a right now, however, IPB is just as good, in most respects.

    So, if you are looking for a recommendation, go with phpBB or IPB and you won't be sorry.
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    To preclude a pissing match about my comments in the previous post, let me go ahead and copy 'n' paste this here...
    Source: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/911/1

    Matthew Mecham is one of the most famous people in the world of online communities, and a popular person among Webmasters who use the famous Ikonboard -- and now the popular Ibforums -- scripts to power their communities.

    Matt has worked on products like YaBB SE and, with YaBB founder Zef Hemel, started "Ikonboard", one of the most popular community scripts on the Internet. Now, Matt's making a splash with his own group of services, Invision, which has rolled out Ibforums. We asked Matthew to dedicate some of his time to answering a few questions which have been on our minds...


    Question: Have you done any benchmark tests to compare Ibforums with other scripts? A little while back, there were benchmark tests done to compare Ikonboard with other scripts -- can you let us know some details about that?

    Answer: I try and stay away from pure benchmarks as much as I can. Designing a program just for speed is folly. A good design should put security first, usability second and efficiency third -- raw speed should be near the bottom somewhere. Let's face it, the difference between 0.03 and 0.1 is about the time it takes you to blink, we're not really able to distinguish between these measures. I've run some personal benchmarks with Invision Board, phpBB2, YaBB SE and vBulletin and on paper Invision Board is faster, but in "human" terms, there isn't much in it.

    Question: Is Ibforums similar to Ikonboard in any way, such as the coding structures or programming guidelines? What new features do you plan to implement, or have already implemented, in Ibforums?

    Answer: Nearly all bulletin boards are the same at a fundamental level. Most allow registration, log in, search, help, posting, moderation and administration -- it's only the implementation that's different...

    PHP is a scripting language, it has a preset number of tools to do a job... For example, there is only one way to connect to a MySQL database in PHP; this means that all bulletin boards written in PHP that use a MySQL database must share an almost exact line of code -- how could you copyright that?

    A product is a sum of all its parts, if you start breaking it down into routines and code structure, you'll find that it's the same as any other PHP script -- it can't be significantly different when the coder is restricted to using the limited tools a scripting language provides...
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    Originally posted by OspreyServices
    ...what slows any BB down is the SKIN you decide to use, not the System itself
    Yes! In a nutshell...
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    phpbb has always felt like the most stable, but because of that, its much more difficult to modify than invision and ikonoboards...

    Another factor to deal with when looking for forums to install
    Last edited by `elemnt; 05-10-2004 at 04:47 PM.

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    I was a programmer for many years. phpBB code is horrible. Horrible. The code is filled with duplication, they didn't bother to create common subroutines (functions). A change in one function requires modifications all over the place. Database access layer isn't abstracted from presentation layer. Data is stored in a non-normalized proprietary manner.

    I don't know about other BBs out there, but from this technician's perspective, phpBB's code is horrible.

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    BTW, I currently use the phpBB2 forum. I'm looking for a better solution.

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    Originally posted by Ron
    I was a programmer for many years. phpBB code is horrible. Horrible. The code is filled with duplication, they didn't bother to create common subroutines (functions). A change in one function requires modifications all over the place. Database access layer isn't abstracted from presentation layer. Data is stored in a non-normalized proprietary manner.

    I don't know about other BBs out there, but from this technician's perspective, phpBB's code is horrible.
    talking about the orginal phpbb or phpbb2???

    that are vastly vastly differant

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    phpbb2

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    Hahahaha! OMG!!!

    Why don't you guys quit while you're ahead? It's obvious that neither one of you know what the hell you're talking about.

    They have cutting-edge Nukers on this site now, for better or for worse. You 'experts' don't even know what the latest version of phpBB is.

    Hint: Next time you want to bullsh!t ppl with how smart you are, check your facts first. Ancient history doesn't cut it here. Sounds as if you both are several months behind the curve...
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    Ok, prove me wrong. I'm looking at 2.06
    Are you saying that the core code has changed between that and 2.08x?

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    Actually, never mind. It's not worth ever engaging an idiot like you in any kind of conversation. It's not profitable.

    Shut up.

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