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    Interesting story of the day...

    First seen on NANOG (North Atlantic Network Operators Group), the oldest IP service provider in NYC has just had its domain hijacked.

    panix.com has apparently been hijacked. It's now associated with a
    different registrar -- melbourneit instead of dotster -- and a
    different owner. Can anyone suggest appropriate people to contact to
    try to get this straightened out?

    --Prof. Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
    Apologies for what may be another duplicate message, probably with broken
    threading. This is Alexis Rosen's original posting to this thread; we
    think the mail chaos caused by the hijacking of panix.com kept it from
    ever reaching the list (but, flying mostly-blind, we aren't sure).


    On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 10:27:31PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin said:
    panix.com has apparently been hijacked. It's now associated with a
    different registrar -- melbourneit instead of dotster -- and a
    different owner. Can anyone suggest appropriate people to contact to
    try to get this straightened out?

    Hi, all.

    I hate to pop my head up after years of lurking, only when things are
    going bad, but probably better that than remaining silent.

    First of all, I'm going to be bounced from this list once its cache of
    my DNS times out, which will probably be in about 2-3 hours, so if you have
    anything to say that you'd like me to see, please copy me. We're temporarily
    accepting mail at panix.net in addition to panix.com, so use alexis (at)
    panix.net.

    A few points to respond to:
    First, Eric, thanks for contacting Bruce and Eric on my behalf. While
    nothing has happened so far, I hope that it will soon, and in any case
    I appreciate your efforts to help a total stranger.

    Someone asked if we had registrar-lock set. It's not clear to me what
    happened. Our understanding is that we had locks on all of our domains.
    However, when we looked, locks were off on panix.net and panix.org, which
    we own but don't normally use. It's not clear how that happened; dotster
    has yet to contact us with any information about, well, anything at all.
    They did answer a call this morning; they're apprently in the middle of
    an ice storm. All I was able to larn from them is that according to the
    person I talked to, they had no records of any transfer requests on our
    domain from today back through last October.

    Someone suggested invoking a dispute procedure. We'll do that, as soon as
    we can get someone to actually accept the dispute, but if it goes through
    that process to completion, many people will suffer, and Panix itself will
    be tremendously damaged. How long do you think even our customers will
    stay loyal? (Forever, for many of them, but that doesn't mean the won't be
    forced to start using a different service.)

    While it's true that MelbourneIT won't do anything before (their) Monday
    morning, I don't want to paint them as bad guys in this drama. I don't
    know how they're organized and I don't know how difficult it is for them
    logistically. Of course I want them to move faster. Much faster. But I'll
    take what I can get.

    And speaking of MIT, I don't intend to send them "nastygrams" - nor NSI
    either. Neither of them owes me anything (at least directly) and being
    heavyhanded would not be a good way to get what I want (restoral of the
    panix.com domain to dotster) even if I thought they deserved it. I expect
    that there will be criminal prosecutions arising out of this, but the time
    for that sort of thing is later, when things are back to normal, and we've
    fixed any systemic vulnerabilities that can be fixed before they're used
    to wreak mass havoc. And it's anyone's guess who the target of those
    prosecutions will be, but I doubt MIT or NSI will be among them.

    Lastly, someone expressed surprise that I'd call MIT's lawyer directly.
    I didn't. I spent *hours* trying to find working contact info for MIT and
    Dotster. I didn't find useful 24-hour NOC-type info anywhere. (Someone
    obviously has this info; I expect it's restricted to a list of registrars.)
    I reached Dotster's customer support when they opened for business Saturday
    morning; the guy was polite, and did what he could, but I saw no evidence
    whatsoever of the promised attempt to assist me after he got off the phone.
    MIT apparently has no weekend support at all; I finally located their CEO's
    cellphone in an investor-relations web page. I caled him, and he had his
    lawyer call me back. That was his choice. FWIW, she's not "just" a lawyer;
    she's apparently the person who has to make decisions about reverting
    control of the domain. So she at least needs to be aware of our position.
    My impression is that she didn't fully grasp the gravity of the situation,
    and so treated us like she'd treat any other annoying customer who managed
    to track her down on her day off. This is somewhat understandable (though
    infuriating) which is why I'd hoped to talk to someone on their tech side
    first. No luck there, but if any of this reaches them, maybe that will
    start things going.

    Thanks again to everyone who has tried to help us today.

    /a
    SOURCE: http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg04242.html
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    DISCLAIMER Any resemblance between the views expressed above and those of the owners and operators of this system is purely coincidental. Any resemblance between these views and my own are non-deterministic. The existence of Vin DSL is questionable. The existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is problematic. The existence of the reader is left as an exercise in the second-order coefficient.

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    DISCLAIMER Any resemblance between the views expressed above and those of the owners and operators of this system is purely coincidental. Any resemblance between these views and my own are non-deterministic. The existence of Vin DSL is questionable. The existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is problematic. The existence of the reader is left as an exercise in the second-order coefficient.

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    LoL! If you'll pardon the pun, who needs network news?
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