WooHoo! 2 million...

[Vin DSL]

[Spathiphyllum]

Tha's a lotta' meatbol! Congratulations!

[Smo]

Congrats

Heh, I bearly got to 500000 in a year, at killboredom.com. The goal is to double that next year.

[Ron]

That's impressive, Vin DSL!

I think that your counter counts search bots... do you have the ability to retro-actively break out bots from humans, or is that something you'd have to tweak in the code, and only available after that?

Unfortunately, counting bots it is just as accurate as using Analog. I have a static part to my site, and a forum. Here are stats from both halves of my site:

PART A:
(Figures in parentheses refer to the 7-day period ending Jan 19 2005 at 3:25 PM).
Successful requests: 83,258,792 (363,885)
Average successful requests per day: 71,668 (51,983)
Successful requests for pages: 15,093,658 (48,551)
Average successful requests for pages per day: 12,992 (6,935)
Failed requests: 582,913 (571)
Redirected requests: 1,233,808 (821)
Distinct files requested: 8,241 (913)
Distinct hosts served: 141,157 (3,326)
Corrupt logfile lines: 55
Data transferred: 1.059 terabytes (5.918 gigabytes)
Average data transferred per day: 955.983 megabytes (865.820 megabytes)

PART B:
(Figures in parentheses refer to the 7-day period ending Jan 19 2005 at 3:25 PM).
Successful requests: 121,522,802 (1,123,538)
Average successful requests per day: 127,131 (160,505)
Successful requests for pages: 2,534,274 (23,573)
Average successful requests for pages per day: 2,651 (3,367)
Failed requests: 396,640 (859)
Redirected requests: 1,220,450 (3,330)
Distinct files requested: 260,969 (18,599)
Distinct hosts served: 62,067 (3,082)
Data transferred: 468.324 gigabytes (4.805 gigabytes)
Average data transferred per day: 501.699 megabytes (702.925 megabytes)

Compare that to stats from a java based counter:

PART A:
VISITS: Total 102,250
Average Per Day 416
Average Visit Length 12:54

PAGES: Total 990,328
Average Per Day 5,883
Average Per Visit 14.2

PART B:
VISITS: Total 177,766
Average Per Day 408
Average Visit Length 3:03

PAGES: Total 1,067,161
Average Per Day 1,997
Average Per Visit 4.9

Compare that to stats from a cgi-based img tag counter:
(I have it only on PART B)

PAGES: Total 944,398

(The image based one undercounts pages viewed; if people re-load the page and the "image" is cached in their browser that doesn't count as a page. The java based one undercounts people with java disabled. But I don't think both undercount by an order of magnitude as Analog suggests.)

woot! I just went over two million too (or 17,500,00 if you believe Analog)!

I'm not taking anything away from you Vinny, old chum! We've BOTH come a very long way from a couple of years ago, and I think your site sees as much -if not more- than my site. Analog stats are horribly innaccurate for my site, and I'm sure that your ms_stats are closer to reality than Analog, but they do seem to count your search bots.

What does Analog show for your site? Is it as crazy as mine?

[Vin DSL]

OMG!!!

I'm gonna have to get back to you. I need to contact Tech Support. I guess someone or something turned off my mail quotas - probably during the server upgrades in late December...

Here's one mail account:


I was 400MB over my disk quota! I deleted the inbox, but I can't set the mail quota now. I'm getting a disk error - says I'm over my disk quota - duh!

Thanks for promping me to go to cPanel and check my Analog stats! Otherwise, I never would have noticed this (until I was booted off JagPC)...

[Ron]

OMG!!!

I'm gonna have to get back to you. I need to contact Tech Support. I guess someone or something turned off my mail quotas - probably during the server upgrades in late December...

Here's one mail account:


I was 400MB over my disk quota! I deleted the inbox, but I can't set the mail quota now. I'm getting a disk error - says I'm over my disk quota - duh!

Thanks for promping me to go to cPanel and check my Analog stats! Otherwise, I never would have noticed this (until I was booted off JagPC)...

That's terrible....

At some point, maybe you could just discard some of them... I know it's fun and sport and all that, but after a while it must get a little... old.

BTW if you do decide to filter your emails, DON'T use a forwarder set to :fail: or :discard: as previously discussed on this forum.

You need to use an "email filter" on the CPanel, and the only way I've had success (I've tried some permutations, but not extensive testing) is using "To contains <email addy> destination Discard"
Which looks like this when submitted:

$header_to: contains "blahNoSpam@yourdomain.com" Discard

[Vin DSL]

That's terrible.... At some point, maybe you could just discard some of them...

I hope you're kidding... I don't see any 'smilies'...

I purge those boxes all the time. I don't check them every day. Sometimes I go a week or so. That was the whole idea of limiting them to 100MB. 100MB is good for about a day or two, give or take. So, I figure the quotas must have been turned off about a week or so ago.

Gotta check my 'ticket'. BBL...

EDIT: Okay, I get it. By discard, you meant to use the 'discard' directive.

LoL! Sorry, I just woke up...

[Ron]

From Jag's standpoint, if your quotas are exceeded, some spamming servers are going to keep retrying every one of those messages at varying delays until some wait time (3 days? more?) is exhausted.

You don't want to bounce them for a couple of reasons:
1) More internet traffic in general
2) Innocent parties named in the SPAM's "from" field can get bombed by bounces (It has happened to me, and I've read of others on here who have gotten the same)
3) SPAMCOP has honeypots set up. If they detect that you have bounced viruses (.exe attachments for example) They automatically label you for two days as a spammer, to alert you to the porblem and to suggest (coerce?) that you stop bouncing from the AV programs. My server was once listed for EXACTLY that reason, and my wife's company bounced all of her emails. (This is more of a JAG issue, but one of which we should all be aware.)

Some other things I've learned:
4) When the "Forwarders" are set to :fail: emails are bounced.
5) When the "Forwarders" are set to :discard:, the response code from JAGs servers is a temporary problem" and email is retried for days and warning messages bounced back.
6) When the "Filters" are set to fail, emails are bounced.
7) When the "Filters" are set to :discard: the emails are silently dropped on the floor.
8) "contains" seems to work on the filters, but "equals" doesn't seem to work.

[Vin DSL]

WooT! I'm on a roll now...

[AlexKall]

Heh, I'm glad if i hit 1000 haha, but I never intended for that much trafic though!

[BernardBlack]

Well I'm proud of my 240 unique hits per day at elitegfx.com I think the pages are hovering at 2000 per day >.<

What site is that Vin DSL?

[Vin DSL]

What site is that Vin DSL?

My production site...

Wanna see something sick? Here's one of the sites I admin -- 108 million




Then, there's Drudge...



It's all relative, I suppose!

[Ron]

What an advertising opportunity Drudge has....

At just 10 cents per thousand views that would still be $1000 a day. At $10 per thousand, it'd be $100,000 a day.

sigh

[BernardBlack]

Yea I mean't what website URL's are they :P www.whatisthisbit.com :P

[Ron]

OK, I went into AWStats and added all the pages for ya, Vin.


These numbers are like yours; they count every page load regardless of whether it's a human or a bot:
(Also, I've banned bots from my forum now, otherwise Part A would be MUCH higher)

Thru 2004: (for comparison to numbers given a year and a half ago)

Part A: 1,392,000
Part B: 1,890,000
--------------------
Total:: 3,282,000

Through yesterday:

Part A: 11,322,000
Part B.: 7,160,000
Part C...: 749,000
--------------------
Total:: 19,231,000
These numbers are a little higher than my javascript counters which count only real people with javascript enabled:

Part A: 5,430,000
Part B: 3,271,000
Part C: included in part A
-----------------
Total:: 8,701,000

We're still pretty close... You'll catch up someday