I Want a More Feature-rich Control Panel, and Virtual Hosting!

[Joshua Clinard]

My needs at Jaguar have largely been met over the 3 years that I have been here, but there are some additional features that I would like Jag to offer. First of all, I'd like to see a more feature rich control panel. I know that many of us have been looking forward to HostGUI for several years now. I guess that project is now totally dead in the water. Is it possible there is still hope for an eventual release sometime in the future? And what about cpanel? Version 10 was released several weeks ago. I'd like to see the cpanel X theme available as an option, with more of it's features available, such as e-mail for subdomains! And I'd also like to be able to use some of AWStats features that aren't currently available to us.

Another thing I would like to see is virtual hosting. I would be willing to pay a few dollars a month for the privilege of being able to have seperate e-mail addresses, and control panels for each domain. I don't need any additional web space or bandwidth, since I am not using more than 5% of the allocated amount. I just want to be able to run my domains seperately. There are certain things such as re-directs and relative paths that don't quite work as advertised with subdomains, that I would like to use with all of my domains. I do not want to have to switch to another provider that has virtual hosting, so I can have some of these features. I have been thinking about it though.

Here is what I am looking for in a virtual hosting account.

Ability to have at least 5, and possibly up to 10 hosted domains, each with their own control panel, private web space, and pop e-mail accounts.

100-200 MB space per domain.

5GB-10GB of monthly bandwidth per domain.

5-10 MySQL databases per domain.

5-10 e-mail addresses per domain.

5-10 ftp accounts per domain.

5-10 subdomains per domain.

You could also just set a limit of total resources available to our virtual account, and let us decide how to allotocate them to our users. Think of this as a "reseller lite" option. I would of course need a control panel to administer adding a new account for each domain.

I'd be willing to pay at least $10 and up to $12 a month for a virtual hosting account, depending on the features.

[the_ancient]

I have NEVER understood their policy on not allowing Email accounts on Mulithosted Domains, every "reason" is total BS IHMO.

I love jag in almost every way this is one of the few that has driven me NUTS. I have never seen another host that does not allow this.

I dont however agree with your Break Down...

I pay for X amount of Space and X amount of Bandwidth I should be able to use that how ever I wish for the Amount of Domains Allowed under the Contract/Plan (which in the AUP ofcourse)

so If I want domain X to use 50mb and domain Y to use 300MB that should be my option IMO...

[Joshua Clinard]

I'm not asking them to let me do whatever I want with my account. I'm asking them to add services that other hosts already have. They add and change plans every year this time anyway.

[Sara]

ANd to top it off it would be nice if they'd get the one button install programs from cPanel in sync on all servers (Specially the old ones like Copper).

[Connie]

Since I am not concerned about most of the things you all are I have a question. Have you compared the actual benefits from these other superior host? Specifically do you know how good their support is?

Personally I have found JPC to be very innovative. Nothing wrong with making suggestions and a wish list. Whether what you want is feasible or not is another question that I can't answer.

[Vin DSL]

Here's what I'm hearing...

"I know I can get a better deal elsewhere, but I've been down this road before. I believe eveything I read, and I got screwed every time. That's how I ended up here in the first place, and why I've hung around Jaguar PC for three years, against my 'better' judgement! However, now my sphincter has healed, and it's quivering...

'Heaven's Gate Hosting' offers me the world for $9.95/mo - VPS and everything - but, I know, in my heart-of-hearts it's a big mistake, and too good to be true. All I really want is something for nothing. So, why can't JagPC just offer me that, so I don't have to hurt myself again? After all, they promised me HostGUI and it didn't happen, so they owe me!"

Am I getting warm?

[Vin DSL]

Have you compared the actual benefits from these other superior host? Specifically do you know how good their support is?

Bingo!

[the_ancient]

allowing email for Multi-hosted Domains is Fairly Common, and there is nothing Security or Cost preventive about it

I dont want "something for nothing" infact if you look back I was AGAINST them offering the Giga-Deal citing the EXACT concerns you just did

Low Cost hosts are a Dime a Dozen, Good Hosts are not
Competeing on Price will only drive you OUT OF BUSINESS, there will be ALWAYS someone cheaper, ALWAYS.

and if Jag came on with a very good solid reason why that do not allow Multi-hosted domains their own pop3 accounts I would understand, but I have yet to hear one.

Joshua Clinard, wants a little more than that, but it is still a reasonable requst, 10 domains for $10 might be a Bit too low, that would be $1/mo per domain, but I think 5 domains for $15 is fesable with the "plan" he listed

[jason]

Joshua,

It sounds like you'd be a good candidate for a VPS when they come out. You'd get the control of a dedicated server with pricing that would be closer to that of a semi-dedicated plan. You could set up as many individual domains as you want in a VDS account and have full control of features. Add CPanel, customize it to your heart's content, and you'd ahve just what you're asking for.

As for not allowing POP accounts for sub- or multihosted domains, I've never understood it, either. It used to be a limitation of CPanel, and like many of the new features of CPanel that came out at about the same time, the feature was buggy at first (according to JPC's staff). But now CPanel seems have become more stable, so I don't understand why it isn't enabled.

(If you view the source of your CP's add POP3 account page, you'll see that your domain name is passed in a hidden field. As a "proof of concept" I just changed the value to a multihosted domain name and successfully created an email account on it. You can too: just get a copy of Firefox and install the Web Developer toolbar. Then go to your POP3 accounts page and select Forms > Display Form Details, which will make all hidden fields editable. Enter your username, password, quota, and domain, click "Add" and you've got a shiny new email account. [Important note: what you are doing is not supported by JPC. Neither they nor I am responsible for what happens if you EXPERIMENT in your account this way. If you trash all of your mail as a result, its your own fault. Do this at your own risk.])

As for HostGUI, Jag's post from the other day implies that it isn't dead, but reincarnated under a new name. Personally, I don't blame Jag for keeping Nixcore on the QT until now. All of the missed dates with HostGUI lead to some bad PR for JPC (just search for HostGUI on WHT). Now they can deliver a quality product without the stress of announcing it too early.

--Jason

[Ron]

I need something similar. I have several requests pending from people who want to have a tiny little home-page like website, and some larger accounts. I wind up just referring them to JAG -- some have come here, others not.

I don't necessarily want to run a VPS -- I want a managed server environment, where I can just resell a couple of little chunks of my site. If I could do this, I could afford to move up the account ladder, ie semi ded, managed/dedicated in the future.

Multi hosting doesn't quite do the trick because of lack of additional SSH logins, and email issues. I already multihost and/or just subdomain a few tiny sites.

I'd also like to issue each (and charge for) a dedicated IP for each, or for some of them, anyway.

Is that too much to ask? LOL

[Spathiphyllum]

Hmmm, there are assuredly pros and cons to however this request is wrapped, and everyone has their pet preference or peeve. I happen to think that the GigaDeal is so economical and the service so good that I'm willing to have some overkill or redundancy to ensure plenty of growth no matter what I do or to "overcompensate" Jaguar for their continued good work. For such continued good service and seemingly customized response, I'll pay a premium even if there is some waste. I'm just looking forward to the day that I can use a semi-ded or dedicated server. Then I might ask for a discount.

I hate to admit it but I'm almost agreeing with Vin. I feel so ashamed.

[Connie]

I hate to admit it but I'm almost agreeing with Vin. I feel so ashamed.

[JPC-Greg]

Cpanel version 10 is not a stable release and we only run stable releases on our shared servers. We are already testing v10 on one of the servers.

Virtual hosting for multiple accounts - possible but will never happen for just a few dollars more. That line of thinking doesnt fit our business model which happens to extend beyond next week .

Email for parked and pointed domains - a possiblity

We have some new ideas and infrastructure plans this year that will improve uptime among all shared services. Our pricing will not decrease on the gigadeal or any smaller plans but our semi-dedicated plans are going to change. Our focus is on that of stability, service, and features...not on being the cheapest host.

Continue to feed us ideas on what you want from us and we shall continue to deliver everything we can.

[lokki]

I'd really like a combo plate... some of my clients benefit from the gigadeal, some just need a 50M spot. For my situation, I am interested in the VPS setup, but I'd like to also have access to things like the gigadeal for distribution of sites that will be more or less managed by the customer directly.

What attracts me to the VPS deal is control over the client accounts. I need this for support and configuration issues (rather, handling some of it myself), but also for managed clients. I'd rather just resell space (like we do now) to those who plan to do their own sites. To reiterate, I'd use VPS for clients whose sites I build and manage, not for simple reselling.

Oh dear... I think I'm confusing things...

[Connie]

Cpanel version 10 is not a stable release and we only run stable releases on our shared servers. We are already testing v10 on one of the servers.

Greg,

I'm glad to hear that. A lot of problems I have had in the past (not in the last year or so) were do to CP updates. I think JPC is a great host with great features, and you can't beat the price or the support.