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For all you Firefox users: Version 1.5 of Mozilla Firefox was released today. http://www.getfirefox.com/ For those of you who aren't using Firefox, it's definately worth ...

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    Firefox 1.5 released today

    For all you Firefox users: Version 1.5 of Mozilla Firefox was released today. http://www.getfirefox.com/

    For those of you who aren't using Firefox, it's definately worth trying. Especially if you're using the completely-out-of-date Internet Explorer.

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    Have they got all the bugs out yet? Just curious...

    I had a really bad experience with 1.5, and I've been using this browser since day-1. Now, I'm running 1.0.7 instead, and playing around with SeaMonkey 1.5a -- both of which are/were more stable than Firefox 1.5, in my experience.

    There seem to be two kinds of ppl that use Firefox -- some use it for surfing and others use it for production. I fall into the 'production' group, and early versions of 1.5 were unusable for production, IMHO.

    Anyway, I guess what I'm asking is, do you think it's finally safe to use Firefox 1.5 for web production?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin DSL
    Anyway, I guess what I'm asking is, do you think it's finally safe to use Firefox 1.5 for web production?
    I tend to stay away from beta releases and such. I usually wait until the regular version is released, so I can't compare this version to the previous 1.5 releases.

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "using it for production" but I can tell you that since I installed 1.5 last night, I've been working on a website redesign and have had no problems with it at all. I've got the Web Developer Toolbar installed and that has been working great with version 1.5.

    About the only problem I had was my favorite Firefox skin (Pinball) wasn't compatible. But, the install program checks all of the extensions and themes and automatically disables any that aren't compatable.

    Hope that helps.

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    if it's beta.. well what can you say. You of all people should know that Vin.

    It's the public beta that helps get that platform stable. It's working fine for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tank
    if it's beta.. well what can you say. You of all people should know that Vin...
    Heh! I also said I'm using SeaMonkey 1.5a. Guess what the 'a' stands for?

    I don't mind doing beta testing, and so forth, but I found Firefox 1.5 to be particularly vexing -- so much so, that I wiped it off my drive[s]. I don't remember doing that with any other version of Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanB
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "using it for production"...
    To me, a browser is not so much a 'browser' as a web dev tool. I don't 'browse' when I'm on the web. I'm always working, e.g using it for production.

    With FX 1.5 I was wasting all my time trying to make 'it' work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin DSL
    ...I don't 'browse' when I'm on the web. I'm always working, e.g using it for production.
    And you are producing what right now? I'm afraid we'll have to dock some pay here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spathiphyllum
    And you are producing what right now? I'm afraid we'll have to dock some pay here.
    Absolutely! I even code in my sleep. No kidding!

    This place is just a distraction -- a 'creativity unblocker', if you will...
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    I just discovered a great new feature in Firefox. I don't remember seeing it before, so I assume it's new to version 1.5.

    Anyway, highlight some stuff on a page and then, right click over the highlighted section. One of the menu options that shows up is "View Selection Source."

    Click that, and you've got a pop-up with the source code for that selection.

    Pretty nifty. Should make tracking down coding problems a LOT easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanB
    Pretty nifty. Should make tracking down coding problems a LOT easier.

    and code stealing too
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanB
    I just discovered a great new feature in Firefox. I don't remember seeing it before, so I assume it's new to version 1.5.

    Anyway, highlight some stuff on a page and then, right click over the highlighted section. One of the menu options that shows up is "View Selection Source."

    Click that, and you've got a pop-up with the source code for that selection.

    Pretty nifty. Should make tracking down coding problems a LOT easier.
    Been there for awhile, I know 1.0.7 had this

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    Does it show the javascript source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_ancient
    Been there for awhile, I know 1.0.7 had this
    Yeah, I've been making use of it for a while..I don't remember exactly which version it was when I discovered that, but I know it was early in my Firefox use history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron
    Does it show the javascript source?
    No, it only shows things you can select. Since JavaScript isn't rendered in the browser you can't see it with this feature. If the JS code was in the body of your page and you selection started before the code and ended after it then you'd probably see it, though.

    If you have the Web Developer toolbar installed you can see all of the JavaScript on a page (both inline and linked) by going to Information > View JavaScript.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron
    Does it show the javascript source?
    Heh! No problem!

    Take this page...

    Code:
    On second thought, nevermind...
    EDIT: Um... I just started thinking, Jag probably doesn't appreciate me displaying several 1000 lines of his JavaScript code in this post. So, use your imagination and pretend you can see the contents of these files...
    • blah_global.js
    • blah_menu.js
    • blah_textedit.js
    • blah_quick_edit.js
    • blah_quick_reply.js

    BTW, I'm using:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12)
    Gecko/20051021 Firefox/1.0.7
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    Hrm...

    Just ran across this:

    Firefox flaw highlighted (01 December 2005)

    The Mozilla Foundation may have just released its latest update to the popular Firefox browser, but some users say their patience with the software's flaws is beginning to wear thin...

    Issues mentioned by users after their first few hours with Firefox 1.5 included the "reload" button disappearing, a bug with selected text, problems with cookie management, keyboard shortcuts being randomly disabled, and a Mac-specific problem with the URL window...
    Source: http://www.techworld.com/application...fm?NewsID=4906

    Guess I'll be sticking with 1.0.7 for a while longer!
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