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Dear JaguarPc, Admin and all those reading this post. This is my very first post (so hello first of all ) I'm using Jaguar's totally ...

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    JPC Senior Member Ms_Lamborghini's Avatar
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    Wink You Owe Me An Explanation :-)

    Dear JaguarPc, Admin and all those reading this post.

    This is my very first post (so hello first of all ) I'm using Jaguar's totally awesome hosting service, but....

    I have been puzzleing over one of the features in general which is driving me nuts because I can not get it right (explanation) about the difference between:

    Domain Redirect
    Domain Parking

    I initially requested for a non Jaguar domain of mine to be redirected to my current Jaguar server, but I was told by Jaguar that what I needed was a "domain parking" feature instead, so please explain the difference between the two and when is it a good idea to use each one..

    I know Jaguar knows who I am (I've been giving them lots of headaches lately with this same question ) Sorry but I need to know this in plain English hehe LOL!

    Thank You for reading,
    Ms_Lamborghini

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    I'm under the impression that a parked domain points straight to your dns server - ns.jaguarpc.net etc - while a domain redirect is something that first goes trough some other place such as yahoo's domain thingy and than points to your site.

    I'm not 100% sure on this, but a few years ago when moving my in-laws site here I ran into something like this..

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    A redirect will actually take the domain you entered in the address bar and send the visitor to another url you specified. Domain parking is taking the one url that the visitor entered and "parking" it on top of another domain - but the visitor still sees the domain they enter.

    Ex: if the user goes to 123.com and sees 123.com but the contents of abc.com, then this is parking. But if the user goes to 123.com and then the page loads and the url changes to abc.com, then they got 'redirected'.

    Generally, parking also allows for email accounts to be created for the "parked" domain.

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    A domain redirect is outgoing, parking is incoming.

    With a redirect, a user enters a URL that leads them to your server. Your server looks at the URL and determines that the content that is being requested actually resides at a different location and it sends the requestor the new URL to try. Depending on how it is set up the URL in the location bar may change to the new URL or it may not. This type of thing is commonly used in reseller situations when the place you are reselling for has give you a website with a URL like yourstore.resell4us.com, but you want to use www.yourstore.com.

    Parking, on the other hand, is used when you already have your own site but you want to direct a second domain name to that content. Parking is used, for example, when you wnat to have the com, net, and org versions of your domain name all point to the same site. You'd first set up the com version and then park the other two on it. This is also common in merger situations where Company A buys out Company B--since Company B's customers are used to using companyb.com, Company A will park that name at their site so that custoemrs can still find them.

    Parking can hurt your ranking in some search engines because they see the multiple versions as duplicate content and may drop all but one of those names from their indexes (and they may not drop the one you want). For this reason a combination of parking and redirects are often used--the request comes in with one name--companyb.com, for example--but the server responds with "companyb.com doesn't really exist anymore, please ask for companya.com instead."

    Hope this helps.

    --Jason
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    This is all good!
    You are all very helpful with your replies. Here's what I want to do in my situation then.

    I own a domain hosted by Jaguar (MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM)

    I own another domain NOT hosted by Jaguar (MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM)

    Both domains have totally different files because they are two totally different world (webpages).

    I want "MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM" files to be hosted on "MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM" server BUT showing the MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM URL address on the browser. Remember that both of these domains have different files each (index).

    So based on the above, which feature would be best to go for?
    I have seen many people do this very same exact thing with their webpages successfully elsewhere but they call it "page redirect"

    Thanks again for your help,

    Ms_Lamborghini

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    Sounds to me like what you want is a multihosted domain which Jag allows. Both A and B would be independent domains but utilize the same web space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clssam
    Sounds to me like what you want is a multihosted domain which Jag allows. Both A and B would be independent domains but utilize the same web space.
    Yep! That's what it sounds like to me, also...

    Clients can now add/remove multi-hosted domains (and parked domains), via cPanel, without even contacting Tech Support or using the ticket system.

    For instance, click these links:

    MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM

    And...

    MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM

    ...are both sitting in the same account, e.g. sharing the same web space.

    Is this what you wanted to do? If so, that's called multi-hosting...
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    Thanks again people, it sure sounds like for what I'm looking to do except that I want to make sure that the URL address shows MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM on the browser's address bar (will it?)... BUT if instead it shows MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM/MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM on the browswers address bar then is not what I want

    How will it show on the browser's address bar? (as my subdomain - how will the path show)

    Thank You!!


    Ms_Lamborghini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms_Lamborghini
    Thanks again people, it sure sounds like for what I'm looking to do except that I want to make sure that the URL address shows MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM on the browser's address bar (will it?)... BUT if instead it shows MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM/MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM on the browswers address bar then is not what I want

    How will it show on the browser's address bar? (as my subdomain - how will the path show)
    When you setup a multi-hosted domain, the server will see:

    MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM/MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM

    However, the world will see:

    MY OTHER DOMAIN.COM

    For instance, in my case: lenon.info resides at http://www.lenon.com/info

    However, the world sees: http://lenon.info/
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    lenon.info? Be sure to reserve lenon.igotsuckered when that root opens up later, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spathiphyllum
    lenon.info? Be sure to reserve lenon.igotsuckered when that root opens up later, too.
    Yeah, long story, I suppose, but...

    I was one of those ppl that got a *free* dot info domain -- don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue, under the table style. I found out I owned it a couple of months before the one-year expiration date, and decided to use it to experiment with the *new* multi-hosting feature on JagPC -- where you could do it yourself instead of going through Tech Support. And, it worked fine!

    However, I'll be damned if I was going to pay Dotster $15 to reup a TLD I didn't ask for, or let it be turned into a 'scraper site', so then it became a research project, finding a *new* registrar. I ended up using a German company called '1und1', or '1&1' here in the States. That worked out fine too.

    So, yeah, in a way 'igotsuckered', but in a way I felt like 'whatthehell', you know?
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    LOL, she said plain English people!
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    Ms. L - You can maintain two separate domains, each displaying their own url by multi-hosting the second domain.

    If you need a walkthrough, more information is required about your setup here at Jag and at your other host and domain registrars (if separate from the hosting companies).

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    Haha! Jaded

    I appreciate all those participating in helping me with this lil' challange.

    Uh,mm... I ran into an interesting question while still working on this.
    My questions are:

    Lets say I want to put a link into my page directing my readers to my contact page which of course is in the same site (different page), so I'm thinking that since I'm working with my subdomain issue here, that my url link path would look like this:
    MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM/ MYSUBDOMAIN.COM /Contact.html The issue here is not how to make this link clickable (been doing this for over 10 yrs so ignore that part) What I want to know is if this path is correct, then wouldn't this path be visible to the reader by simply just placing their mouse over the link which will show up like this: MYJAGUARDOMAIN.COM/ MYSUBDOMAIN.COM /Contact.html ... at the bottom of their screen?

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    With multihosting, the link will display as http://www.mysubdomain.com/contact.html

    It acts and looks like a unique domain. There is no subdomain reference.

    The link can be relative (<a href="contact.html">) and doesn't require the complete url.

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    You can reference files in your subdomain/multihosted domain directory in URLs from your main domain.

    For example, given:
    Main domain => www.maindomain.com
    Multihosted domain => www.multihost.com, resides in public_html/multi

    you could have a vaid URL of http://www.maindomain.com/multi/somepage.html

    This page would also be available at http://www.multihost.com/somepage.html, which 90%+ of the time is the way you'd want to reference that page. When done like this the end user won't even know that maindomain.com even exists.

    The opposite is not true--there is no way (at least not natively) to access a page from www.maindomain.com from a URL in www.multihost.com.

    Just some food for thought. Hopefully it didn't confuse you further.

    --Jason
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