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Hello, Regarding this topic Are you ready for 2006 Hurricane Season? that greg made i fear as to what fate my sites will have, so ...

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    Greg Scared the hell out of me.

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    Regarding this topic Are you ready for 2006 Hurricane Season? that greg made i fear as to what fate my sites will have, so greg are my sites going to be ok do u have some other dc somewhere which is safer?

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    moved to discussions, seemed more appropriate. Your servers and data in houston are perfectly fine. The hurricane that blew over us last year had zero affect on uptime or any services and things have only gotten better. We do have some operations we've been adding to facility in Atlanta for people needing some geographically dispersed operations. To label any one of them more safe than the next would mean I can predict mother nature and the future . Neither are in any danger of suffering outages, its what we plan for.
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    Aside from keeping up-to-date backups, what sould we be doing?
    Also, in the worst-case scenario where there is enough damage to the building to cause any kind of long outage (say, over a day), how will/should things be handled? Should we be looking for some other place as a temporary host? From my 20+ years living in New Orleans, i don't ever remember the Houston area ever being in a dire predicament (but then, i stayed in New Orleans for every tropical storm until i moved away last July...talk about timing!), but what should be our concerns and preparations?
    The NHC has some statistics on past strikes (from 1851 to 2004) and the most hit part of Texas (south), which i assume Houston is in, had 7 category 3 storms and 1 category 4. Being from the area, i wouldn't see anything weaker than a cat 3 as being even worthwhile, unless Houston is totally unprepared for hurricane strikes, which i doubt. Although, it is notable to see that Georgia has had far fewer (2 cat 3's and 1 cat 4) strikes...

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    Is atlanta safer than texas when comes to hurricane ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stayalive
    Is atlanta safer than texas when comes to hurricane ?
    if GA and TX are both hit by hurricanes stong enough to kill both datacenters at the same time, I think we have ALOT more to worry about than a few web sites
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_ancient
    if GA and TX are both hit by hurricanes stong enough to kill both datacenters at the same time, I think we have ALOT more to worry about than a few web sites
    Yaa i know but i dunno histroy of usa and hurricanes so is Ga safer than texas or is just as prone as texas?

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    Hurricanes are not an issue for Atlanta, Georgia.
    Hurricanes are coastal events and are usually destructive only up to 50 or 100 miles inland. As a guess, Atlanta is probably 250 miles inland.
    Last edited by Ron; 05-23-2006 at 12:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron
    Hurricanes are not an issue for Atlanta, Georgia.
    Hurricanes are coastal events and are usually destructive only up to 50 or 100 miles inland. As a guess, Atlanta is probably 250 miles inland.
    Oh so atlanta safe from huricanes but is there any other danger zone there like earthquake or train crashes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stayalive
    Oh so atlanta safe from huricanes but is there any other danger zone there like earthquake or train crashes?
    ROFL, there is no place on the planet that is free from danger

    Hell almost every state as more than 1 fault line and could have a earthquake at any time.

    There are Tornado, Tropical storms, Lightning strikes(hell that just happened here took out Phone services, Cable tv services and Internet Services for about 12hrs for 500,000 people in my city all due to a lightning strike)
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    Hmm maybe i shouldnt be in hosting business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stayalive
    Hmm maybe i shouldnt be in hosting business.
    why??

    Because something may happen, You better not be in ANY business then,

    I was going to say you better put yourself in a padded room but a sinkhole could open up and swallow the building you in...


    Sh!t happens, it is a fact of life, with any business you have to plan the best you can for the given cost of the planing

    i.e is you life depends on a web site, you better have 2 or more dedicated boxes in class a NOC;s on seperate ends of the world and you MIGHT be ok, but then that pesky astroid could stike and well.........

    it all all Cost vs Risk, for a shared hosting customer it is not going to be cost effective to have them hosting is geo diverse mirrored servers, the best bet is to have a policy in place, to where already stored backup can be moved to a new NOC, possibly a send service provider picked out incase jag suffers irrepariable damage. but the odds of something happening that would cause an outage of that magatude is not very good, but it CAN happen, so you prepare the best you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_ancient
    ROFL, there is no place on the planet that is free from danger...
    Au contraire!

    Cheyenne Mountain, Co. is pretty safe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin DSL
    Au contraire!

    Cheyenne Mountain, Co. is pretty safe!
    Good luck getting them to let you run your web hosting business from their, and if your anywhere near the outside might as well put a big bulleyes on your building
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    It's going to be an active season this year. If the Houston area gets the Category 5 that is long over due, the storm surge is suppose to be about 35 feet all the way up to 610 south. The branch of 610 that is on the bottom that you see in the following map is 610 south. The major point of impact on the 610 corridor is going to be more east, closer to Highway 225. Jaguar is marked on the map. You be the judge. It's going to have to be a category 5 for it to really hurt Jaguar.

    I'll be the hell out of here if that's the case.

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    I maintain that both locations are safe as one can plan for. There isnt a place in this country that is without its potential bad weather and times. The facilities, like the banks, energy companies, and telco's all around us are all planning on the same things.

    The best thing you can do is just keep your backups current. You can go overboard and order some hosting from other companies/sites/servers all over the globe to make sure one of them is up but you dont need to. Absolute worst case scenario if houston sinks into the ocean and you use your backups to restore your site at another host...in which case I'll be needing to apply for a job somewhere as well.
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