Music Download Software & Happy New Year!!

[Ms_Lamborghini]

Happy Holidays to all first

Can anyone recommend a riliable software to download music with without the SPYWARE trash most of them have and without having to use my credit card

I used to have limeware but that was a nightmare, it messed up my computer completely last year. It was horrible (bunch of spyware).. I have protection but I do NOT want a software that comes with spyware and pop-ups, commercials bla bla..

You'all are the experts... I'm all ears


Thank You!!
Missy

[JPC-Nick]

This would be considered an illegal request, Downloading music with out paying for it, is in violation of however many rules/laws its unheard of.

Just ask next time, does anyone know a good p2p program that does not come with spy ware.

[Vin DSL]

I listen to streaming music over the net -- I don't collect it. When I used to collect music, I never listened to it. So, I don't know what to tell you, exactly...

I typically listen to streaming music about 18-20 hours a day -- usually the same 'channel' -- and most playlists aren't that long, so I tend to hear the same songs over n' over, and usually in the same order, which is the same thing, I guess, as having it recorded.

Hrm...

I'll have to think about that, while I'm listening to more of the same ol' same ol'...

Am I missing something, except the spyware and music industry lawyers?

[the_ancient]

This would be considered an illegal request, Downloading music with out paying for it, is in violation of however many rules/laws its unheard of.

Just ask next time, does anyone know a good p2p program that does not come with spy ware.

it is??? Better tell iTunes
I think your full of BS though. Music Downloading is NOT illegal based on my interpretation of Fair Use even if it was made to be it is not enforceable so .....
Music Uploading MAY be illegal IF it is with out the permission of the artist. But some artist still make music for the joy of it not because they are greedy scum bags wanting to charge $15 for what is effectively a single because of the Recording Industries decision to **** over the public.

ALSO, this only applys to the US, other countries are still free... Unlike the so called "home of the free" were we are all prisoners to our government masters

In Closing I refuse to spend a Single Dime on music due to the RIAA strong arm and underhanded extortion efforts of grandmas and teenage girls that cant defend themselves. Think of it as a Act of Civil Disobedience.

[the_ancient]

ohh and too the OP, the BEST site for Information and News on this topic is www.slyck.com on the left navigation column is a "guide" section for all the differant networks. just as a brief over view

"Bit torrent" is a super fast trasfer protocall great for Large files and is currently being used or will be used in the near future for MANY LEGAL puposes including the delivery of DVD quality moves.

edonkey network is great for finding things that cant be found elsewhere, the network is VERY vast, but slow, suffering for long ques. the company that started edonkey was sued out of exsitance, the RIAA in the infinate stupidity really thought if they killed on client it would kill the network. when they shut the orginally company down they only had 10% of the market share on the network,. the opensource client emule had most of the other 90%, so the network itself was uneffected lol

MP2P was the BEST music network ever created, sadly development seems to have stopped, I would give it a try though.

the others are pretty much defunct, outdated, for flooding with RIAA spoofs.

WHAT EVER YOU DO, look in to getting PeerGuardian software, it is a user compiled list that blocks out most of the know CyberCop companies stopping them from Downloading from you, and Stopping you from downloading from them. GREAT protection software

[Vin DSL]

I guess I don't get it...

Why steal something you can get for free?

Civil disobedience?

Then, again, ppl throw money away on water, even though 3/4 of the earth is covered with it, and there's a drinking fountain every 100 feet.

Why don't they steal that too? Same thing, no?

[the_ancient]

I guess I don't get it...

Why steal something you can get for free?

Civil disobedience?

Then, again, ppl throw money away on water, even though 3/4 of the earth is covered with it, and there's a drinking fountain every 100 feet.

Why don't they steal that too? Same thing, no?

damn can you post a more illogical, incoherent post?

What am I stealing that I can get fro free. (BTW I dont consider it stealing)

Now for the Water

3/4 of the world is covered in UNDRINKABLE water... I dont know where you live but there is NOT a drinking fountain every 100 feet, infact I have never seen a Public fountain around here that was not in a stores restroom area. NOR would I drink from such a fountain because I dont trust the cities water supply

as far as Stealing water, that is a tangible product that cost the company actual money to make the actual product. Digital download merely duplicate the product.

If I could walk in to a store with a Scanner, Scan the bottle of water and produce a new bottle on the spot then I would and not pay for it as well

[Vin DSL]

as far as Stealing water, that is a tangible product that cost the company actual money to make the actual product.

Oh? How do they make water?

Answer: They get it out of the tap, just like me!

Look, I can click a button and I got music, for as long as I can stand it, and then some. Same thing in my car! Same on my TVs! If I feel compelled to 'roll my own', I can go to libararies and borrow it.

The point is, I don't see any reason to steal what I can get for free -- ahem, or buy -- just like ppl buy filtered tap water.

I imagine that 3/4 of the earth is covered in music, and most of it is unsustainable... you probably listen to that hillbilly sh!t...

[the_ancient]

Oh? How do they make water?

Answer: They get it out of the tap, just like me!

Look, I can click a button and I got music, for as long as I can stand it, and then some. Same thing in my car! Same on my TVs! If I feel compelled to 'roll my own', I can go to libararies and borrow it.

The point is, I don't see any reason to steal what I can get for free -- ahem, or buy -- just like ppl buy filtered tap water.

I imagine that 3/4 of the earth is covered in music, and most of it is unsustainable... you probably listen to that hillbilly sh!t...

depends on the source of Bottled water, some of it is just simple filters, however there are some that are really clean. I am too lazy to filter my own tap water anyway.

the point is mute, your a RIAA troll so .....

[Vin DSL]

the point is mute, your a RIAA troll so .....

Beats being a common thief ...

[Spathiphyllum]

...I think your full of BS though. Music Downloading is NOT illegal based on my interpretation of Fair Use even if it was made to be it is not enforceable so ...

Your interpretation of Fair Use means diddly squat. The courts interpret the law and they are interpreting anti-RIAA downloads as illegal. Now, you can break those laws all you want, but the courts will not give quarter should all those "extortionists" decide they want due compensation for your theft.

ALSO, this only applys to the US, other countries are still free... Unlike the so called "home of the free" were we are all prisoners to our government masters

Such laws may be created in U.S. jurisdictions and apply strictly there, but it is only a matter of time until all artists across the globe, along with their "masters", decide that their own version of the RIAA will be appropriate and desirable. Online piracy, and others with the same attitude you are displaying here, have ensured this eventuality. I wish the artists the best of luck collecting the wages for their work that they deem reasonable. I also endorse whatever methodology they choose to disseminate their creations - whether free or cost-prohibitive.

In Closing I refuse to spend a Single Dime on music due to the RIAA strong arm and underhanded extortion efforts of grandmas and teenage girls that cant defend themselves. Think of it as a Act of Civil Disobedience.

I interpret your "Act of Civil Disobedience" as a crime... pure and simple theft. The courts have my, and the artists', backs here.

[JPC-Greg]

speaking of civil, lets try to keep this convo civil.

[Vin DSL]

It's all Nick's fault, Chief! He started it...

Kinda clever, really!

First of all, he chummed the waters by issuing a challenge, in your stead -- a BF2 tourney, between the JagPC management/staff and JagPC client/members!

Now he's doing the old "Divide and Conquer" -- but we're wise to that!

United we're one, divided we're done, right guys (you too Ms. Lamborghini)?

We're just playing 'him' a bit, Big G...

[the_ancient]

Your interpretation of Fair Use means diddly squat. The courts interpret the law and they are interpreting anti-RIAA downloads as illegal. Now, you can break those laws all you want, but the courts will not give quarter should all those "extortionists" decide they want due compensation for your theft.

You show me this court ruling, you cant because it does not exsits. the RIAA is SCARED of the courts, they back out of any lawsuit that is not instantly settled when it comes to downloading.

the ONLY ruling to date is one that states that a Software can be sued if they incite illegal distribution.

The RIAA and its members has a LONG history of PROVEN ILLEGAL activities including Computer Hacking, Root Kit installations on User PC's, Price Fixing, and other such Crimes.

I feel no sorrow for such a criminal organization. Fight Fire with Fire I say, Dont Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight

Such laws may be created in U.S. jurisdictions and apply strictly there, but it is only a matter of time until all artists across the globe, along with their "masters", decide that their own version of the RIAA will be appropriate and desirable. Online piracy, and others with the same attitude you are displaying here, have ensured this eventuality. I wish the artists the best of luck collecting the wages for their work that they deem reasonable. I also endorse whatever methodology they choose to disseminate their creations - whether free or cost-prohibitive.

I support the artists too, I will happily pay once they Destroy the Criminal Entity of the RIAA. MANY Independent artists sell their wares fro Profit on the Internet, and have Stated publicly the p2p downloading as BOOSTED sales for them.

the fact of the matter is, p2p today is what BETA was decades ago, the MPAA tried and tried to kill BETA for the EXACT same reasons. Today home Video sales account for most of the movie sales.

I interpret your "Act of Civil Disobedience" as a crime... pure and simple theft. The courts have my, and the artists', backs here.

Again show me the Court Cases that Back your claim.

You call me a criminal but then hang your hat on the support pole of a proven organized Crime outfit. That does NOT support the artists either, infact the RIAA (and its members) has had, and continues to have Lawsuits filed against it from many artists for failure to pay them....

But keep living in your bubble

[Spathiphyllum]

You show me this court ruling, you cant because it does not exsits. the RIAA is SCARED of the courts, they back out of any lawsuit that is not instantly settled when it comes to downloading...

I'll let the law speak for me courtesy the "organized crime outfit" that is the RIAA. See the RIAA's collection of links and investigate away.

Now, who is afraid of the courts? The RIAA sues, settles by collecting damages (perhaps a fraction of their request, perhaps not), and deters others from furthering illegal distribution. I'd say the copyright infringers are the ones fearing the court. That they avoid the expense of long, drawn out court battles seems to be a plus. For now they seem willing to have violators pay some retribution or force an agreement whereby distribution is regulated and the artists (or their masters) get a piece of the action. Furthermore, the number of those willing to break the law diminishes with time, so they are attaining the ultimate goal of reducing piracy. They'll be able to ratchet up or down the degree of court battles depending on the egregiousness of the offense. Based on my anecdotal observations, they are winning this war.