Competitor Experience?

[olokiop]

I just got off the phone with R******** and they tried to justify a 500% price differential with support and their varying degrees of invented superiority in that category. Anyone have any experience with these guys and their "fanatical" support?

[Gwaihir]

JagPCs forum is great for many things, but for this discussion I'm thinking www.webhostingtalk.com

[Vin DSL]

Not sure where you're going with this, but...

In my life experience, I learned a long time ago that NOBODY is perfect!

Secondly, if you want '800 lb gorillas' you gotta feed them! 'Hamsters' IMHO are just as amusing and a lot easier to maintain...

So, it's incumbent upon 'us' to discover the best of all possible worlds - 'the gilded one' - and for me that's JagPC!

I think JagPC offers some incredible values, but they can't be everything to everybody, especially at pennies on the wholesale dollar.

If you have special need[s] that they don't offer, how about spitting it out?

[JPC-Greg]

I dont think thats where he was going with this. Think it was more of a , tell us why the other guys suck, type of thread. And they all suck becuase they arent us!

booyah!

[Vin DSL]

I dont think thats where he was going with this. Think it was more of a, tell us why the other guys suck, type of thread. And they all suck becuase they arent us!

booyah!

OMG, don't get me started!

Let's just say, I have NEVER been with a mass web host longer than this place - amazing!

Guess that says it all...

What's R******** stand for?

Rsheepdog maybe?!?!

[JPC-Greg]

google "fanatical support", they actually trademarked the term

[Vin DSL]

#%&^ing RackSPACE Spammers

Is that the place

I think I banned R******** IPs from my production site because they were spamming my referals!

Come to think of it, I know I did!

Yeah, that place sucks big time... at least their clients do!

[Ron]

they were spamming my referals!

Can you explain what that means?

thx

[Vin DSL]

Can you explain what that means?

thx

Referer spam? Sure...

Here's my referals for today.

As you can see, it has a PR of '0', and for good reason! Google knows what I'm talking about!

Now look at this page.

It has a PR of '2'. This is a little different situation...

This has a PR of '4'.

And, this has a PR of '5'.

This is a whole new ballgame! Referer spammers love this...

Source

What's the point?

Why go to the effort of leaving a web site address in someone else's log files?

Most web servers have the ability to log an extensive amount of information about web sites visitors. Many webmasters and bloggers use web-based software to parse those log files automatically. The result is one or more pages breaking the information down into very detailed statistics. These statistics include the referer information and often those referers are displayed as hyperlinks.

Bloggers quite often will display a link to the most frequent or most recent web site found in their referer logs using scripts. Some will even put those links right on the front page of their site in a sidebar area.

Unscrupulous web site owners are spamming the log files in order to have their web sites listed on those referer links. This creates an artificial boost in that site's popularity among those search engines that measure the number of links to a site. It also generates traffic when curious visitors of a victim site clicks the links displayed in the referer listing.

Simply put, these people are running advertisements on your web site and using it to boost their search engine rankings. They do this without your knowledge, without your permission, and without compensating you in any way for the use of your network.

What I've noticed is certain hosts allow clients to do this, even if you complain - R******* is one of them!

When I spot spammers doing this to excess or if it's (ahem) coming from pornographers, I simple block the hosts entire range of IPs...

Make sense?

[Ron]

Yes, I understand referrer spam but when you said "Spamming my referals" it confused me. I thought you meant that they were sending spam to people who you had referred to them, but I didn't think you would be doing that.

[Vin DSL]

Yes, I understand referrer spam but when you said "Spamming my referals" it confused me.

Thanks, Ronnie!

Another worthless post!

I know you're a mod and everything, but your confusion doesn't mean jack sh!t to me!

Save it for your wife!

[Ron]

I was giving you a chance to air your love of JPC, rather than leaving the impression that you were referring customers to someone else. So I take it back.

[Vin DSL]

I was giving you a chance to air your love of JPC, rather than leaving the impression that you were referring customers to someone else. So I take it back.

Oh, I see...

Okay, thanks!

[olokiop]

Greg knows me to well.

[Vin DSL]

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I *guess* nobody is impervious...

Now, for the reality of the situation: SOURCE

Thu Jun 21 21:58:42 EDT 2007
======================================== ==========
DSLR is offline at the moment, total power failure at the
data center we use (www.nac.net) an hour ago means we have
to bring servers up individually, and check for errors.

update:
Thu Jun 21 23:09:54 EDT 2007
Looks like this is going to take hours to sort out
and we're off to do an all nighter at the data center

Bwahahahaha!