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Well i found my self in a pickle tonight.. I was tweaking one of my SMF forums that took FOREVER to setup the theme to ...

  1. 01-17-2008, 05:07 PM #1
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    The value of backups!

    Well i found my self in a pickle tonight..

    I was tweaking one of my SMF forums that took FOREVER to setup the theme to match my WP theme and what do you know, I screwed it up... BIG TIME!

    I accidentally blocked admin access and when setting up an SEO plugin, hosed my htaccess file... Yes I know, issues... Should have been paying closer attention!

    BUT all was not lost! The DB was not affected, only a bunch of the source files...

    **ENTER LAST NIGHT'S BACKUP TARBALL**

    What do you know, 5 minutes later, i had the forum back up from a backup from last night! Since the DB was not screwed up, I was able to keep it and just reupload the source.


    The reason behind this post:

    To demonstrate one of the MANY reasons why EVERYONE, yes that includes YOU, should have backups on hand of their accounts...

    Now if I didn't have these backups, i would have spent hours trying to fix it... then I would have just given up and thrown the towel in and started over!
    -Daniel

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  2. 01-17-2008, 10:18 PM #2
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    I couldn't agree more: not having backups of your own accounts is playing with fire and one day you will pay the price for that.

    I allways have a backup of my accounts at home and I even upload a backup of my accounts to a friends server just to be absolutely sure. And I also inform the people I host that they have to keep backups themselves.

    Never, ever just depend on the backups made by your hostingprovider. Something can always go wrong, even with the best plans.

    My father used to work a the legal department of a bank and they had thousands of files. One day the server had a crash and all was lost. No problem, there was a backup.....

    And then they found out that the backup itself was corrupt and so they had to re-enter all files from hardcopy (which they fortunately had), it took them two years.

    That's why I make regular backups of my accounts, just to be sure!
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  3. 01-18-2008, 07:48 AM #3
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    don't forget to make backups of your local machine to...

    Norton Ghost rocks for that!
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  4. 01-18-2008, 10:43 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPC-Nick View Post
    don't forget to make backups of your local machine to...

    Norton Ghost rocks for that!
    I keep telling myself to do that and I do not listen. I just redid my main system with fdisk and reinstall of everything! It took a couple days and I am still not all setup yet. Need to calibrate my monitors. I have to do it this time - I just have to. You hear that Frank - DO IT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPC-Nick View Post
    Norton Ghost rocks for that!
    Heh!

    It rocks... and locks too!

    I had a Seagate going bad, a few years ago, and used Norton Ghost to mirror it before it failed.

    LoL!

    Norton Ghost made an EXACT copy to the new drive, bad (locked) sectors and all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Broughton View Post
    I keep telling myself to do that and I do not listen... I have to do it this time - I just have to. You hear that Frank - DO IT!
    We keep telling Vin the same thing, but he won't listen either!

    That's what me is for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin DSL View Post
    We keep telling Vin the same thing, but he won't listen either!

    That's what me is for...
    Oh NO......................... are YOU trying to tell ME that I and like YOU!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_DBS View Post
    My scripts never have bugs. They just develop random features.
    Love that part of your sig. Im totally adopting it! By that I mean stealing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Broughton View Post
    Oh NO......................... are YOU trying to tell ME that I and like YOU!
    Huh? That made absolutely no since Frank! Leave the Me, Myself, and I to Vin!

    -Daniel

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPC-Greg View Post
    Love that part of your sig. Im totally adopting it! By that I mean stealing it.
    Thanks

    No problem... Now give me chocolate
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    Anyone ever use: Acronis® True Image 11 Home Backup software: http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/

    Okay Daniel we will leave that to Vin. I will for sure and tell it to Frank too so he knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Broughton View Post
    Anyone ever use: Acronis® True Image 11 Home Backup software: http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...cts/trueimage/

    Okay Daniel we will leave that to Vin. I will for sure and tell it too Frank to so he knows.
    Hahaha!

    Now as far as Acronis... Never used the trueimage, but I do have an old version of the partition manager.

    I have an old open source disk cloning software on a CD somewhere I use for complete clones.

    For just backups, all my important info is stored on a couple of fedora file servers here at the house, and then usually once per week I will use an NAS I have that came with backup software to tarball those file servers and store them on the NAS.
    -Daniel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_DBS View Post
    I have an old open source disk cloning software on a CD somewhere I use for complete clones.
    Have a name for this software?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Broughton View Post
    Have a name for this software?
    Like I said... SOMEWHERE... as in I don't know where it is at right this moment... it could be anywhere from my office to my server closet... NO CLUE... haven't made a complete clone in several months
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    And it only directly clones to another hard disk.. Can't be used to make an image disk.

    At work we use some ridiculously expensive imaging software that doesn't even work half the time... Don't remember the name of it either!

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    -Daniel

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