New to JaguarPc

[Polo]

I'm new to jaguar pc and i have a couple of questions about my hosting plan (gigadeal)

I want to know what these two features are and how i can use them:

Secure Shell (SSH)

Free Secure Server (SSL)
(uses our certificates)

thanks in advance...

[Zacrifice]

for SSH do a search for SSH or Telnet. Otherwise I could be here all day, also a few people have explained it much better already then I ever would!

SSL Free secure server.
SSL is a way of connecting to a server over a secure connection, it allows information to be sent too and from the users computer (Your computer as an example) and the server (jaguars server) encrepted so that no one else may find the information held in it.

Lets take an example of you signing up with Jag
You choose the giga deal, then you would move to another page, well if you noticed there is a small padlock at the bottom of the browser, that was a secure connection, that allowed information, such as your credit card to be sent to jaguar in a way that stopped anyone from finding out your credit card details.

heh, little ruff but I hope you get the idea

[Vin DSL]

Originally posted by Polo
...I want to know what these two features are and how i can use them...

If you don't know what SSL is, you don't need it! SSH, or your shell account, is a different matter.

Everyone should use SSH to transfer files back and forth to their web site, and do basic grunt work. Think about it as FTP on steroids, if you will, but it's more than that. I don't feel inclined to convince you of this. Just take my word for it. SSH is paramount, and one of the biggest reason for hosting at a place like this; it's that important!

The easiest way to shell into your account is to use a program called WinSCP, unless you're a knot-headed CLI user with one foot in the grave.

Forget SSL and focus on SSH. SSL doesn't mean shucks, unless you're trying to fool ppl into thinking you are a legitimate business, instead of some slob trying to work money out of ppl from your kitchen...

[Zacrifice]

Okies, Vin, You explained absolutely nothing in that post.

SSL is important for some people, those wanting to set up a store and so forth (Not too work money out of people) its also interesting to know, what it is, what it does and what its use is.

SSH sucks for uploading files, its cumbersome and its much easyer to just use an FTP program, Since he doesn't know what SSH is it will be much easyer to use FTP for him/her. Besides, you gotta know where every single damn file is and in XP when its in my documents its just too damn long!!

Likes I mentioned before, do a search on this forum, you will find a lot of explenation

[Spathiphyllum]

Originally posted by Polo
...two features...how i can use them:
Secure Shell (SSH)
Free Secure Server (SSL)

An example for SSH:
You have a security cgi script (program) or are uploading/editing a password file. Well, you want to perform those operation remotely or securely; SSH to the rescue. It will provide an encrypted "tunnel" for your data commands and transmissions to pass more securely between your PC and the web hosts server. Like Vin said, get, learn, and use WinSCP... it will become an invaluable tool that you will not put down.

An example for SSL:
You have a web-interfaced contact form to handle data submissions, say an address book. You want that data submitted as securely as possible via a visitor's web browser. Well by coding your get, or more likely post, requests and web-interfaced form to reference https, you take advantage of the more "secure" encryption/validation procedure of the webhost's SSL certification.

Quick and dirty summary so you'll have a lot of homework to do if you don't understand the terminology.

Hope this helps.

[the_ancient]

Originally posted by Vin DSL
If you don't know what SSL is, you don't need it!

I cant even begin to count the number of ways that statement is wrong

[Galen]

Originally posted by Zacrifice
SSH sucks for uploading files, its cumbersome and its much easyer to just use an FTP program, Since he doesn't know what SSH is it will be much easyer to use FTP for him/her. Besides, you gotta know where every single damn file is and in XP when its in my documents its just too damn long!!

Not if you use a program like WinSCP. It works just like an FTP program, only much more secure. The whole GUI, drag & drop, etc. Very nice. You should check it out.

[Zacrifice]

have you got a URL for it Galen?

I ponder why you would need a secure connection for uploading of regular files.

If someone is that desperate to get my HTML and JPEG files then they can just take them off the site

Can understand when passwords are used, but the likely hood of someone wanting your password that badly is very slim for most people. Can understand very large sites like Amazon needing thatsort of security but not an normal site

[Ron]

With your ftp password, your server can be used for distribution of illegal warez, porno, and other such nasty things.

[Vin DSL]

Originally posted by Zacrifice
have you got a URL for it Galen?

WinSCP: http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/

[Zacrifice]

Thats not too bad, take a little while to get used to the interface and the drag and drop instead of just double click, but other then that its not bad!

Programers did a good job!

[Ron]

Here's an excellent tutorial on how to configure WinSCP for JAGs servers:
http://forum.jaguarpc.com/showthread...threadid=10530

[Vin DSL]

Originally posted by Zacrifice
Thats not too bad... Programers did a good job!

WinSCP rocks!

[Gwaihir]

Missing one pretty relevant thing in the descriptions of the SSL service offered as part of the package: what the "use our certificates" actually means.

SSL comes in two parts:
a) the encripted connection itself -- which pretty much any webserver system nowadays can offer and pretty much every browser can handle.
b) the certificate that tells you that you just set up that secure connection with the site you think you did it with.

Such a certificate works for one specific domain only, so when you use the shared certificate on your server, the URL won't be on your own domain, but look something like host##.nocdirect.com/~your_username. That limits its useability somewhat as it doesn't look overly professional.

[Galen]

Gwaihir, two words: Inline frames

Create an iframe that spans the entire page and have the contents inside the frame be secure##.nocdirect.com/~your_username

The URL in the browser will be whatever framed page the user is at on your site, but b/c of the iframe it will still show as secured. Though, anyone with a little netsense will figure it out when they see the "lock" icon in the broswer, but with a regular http address in the URL.