Hybrid Hosting - Super Semi-dedicated with WHM reseller tools

[JPC-Greg]

Ok so here we are again on the topic os beyond sdx. Few people expressed a desire for an sdx account thats uber in all measures . A few people want a reseller account thats massive in power.

We are putting together this new Hybrid which is a Super sized sdx with reseller tools. Heres what I can tell you so far, the rest is up to you , the potential client, to decide.

Same mass badass server specs as SDX.
Accounts allowances vastly increaed divided only a couple ways.
Depending on what you guys tell us here we will fix the limits and costs.
We will have to limit the number of resold accounts you can add from whm or all integrity of being super sdx is lost. A rough figure is just 5 resold sites per sdx user right now.
I estimate costs will be from $80-$150 unless something people suggests drastically change what we can sell.

We dont want to go above 5 users, and by definition cant go below 2. What size features, and prices are you willing to pay and what exactly do you want to get out of it?

[Vin DSL]

So, this is a melding (or marriage) of SDX with Reseller capabilities, i.e. separate cPanel log-ins, e.g. 5 SDX accounts in 1, et cetera?!?!?

If so, it looks like you're venturing it virgin territory, Chief!

Am I reading the situation correctly?

[Ron]

5 sites is too low for me. Only one has any real power needs at all (and not much at that ) at the moment. The others are just for segregation purposes (each site gets it's own CPanel account). If we go that low, I might as well go to a current SDX and just use multihosting as I will wind up with multihosted accounts under the new plan anyway.

I see situations like titanspot's: He has 1 or 2 sites that need some horses and the rest of his sites are duds like mine (j/k but the point stands.) I can imagine there must be other resellers out there who have a dozen or two sites and one of them is becoming a monster.

I know I've instigated some of this <sheepish grin> but I don't know where you should be setting the numbers. $80 to $100 sounds about right, massive power, massive disk; I don't know about site management and growth. Perhaps you can buy "additional CPanel 5 packs" as addons or something.

With only 5 users, would 125 CPanels really slow the machine? Is WHM configured such that purely by adding a new CPanel it consumes lots of resources?

I am still assuming private label nameservers and all of the current Reseller features, also the SDX features such as video hosting. Is that correct?

Finally, you mention "same hardware as SDX". Any chance for a beefier (more CPUs more RAM) machine for more money?

Way cool.

[JPC-Greg]

I dont know where you get the 125 , 5 sdx with 5 max is a limit of 25 total possbile sites on the machine, if, all sdx used all 5 of their cpanel accounts.

125 accounts would slow the machine yes, at least beyond what our normal sdx do. And what goods a super sdx if its slower than sdx.

We can beef up the machine but the cost of the plans will rise and well above $100, probabl above $150 , and then your just too deep into dedicated server pricing.

[Ron]

I was thinking of perhaps a 25 limit, that's where the number came from. I'd probably use about 10. I have some itsy bitsy 100 or 300 visitors a month sites; some are given as thank you's to moderators, they run miniscule hobby sites off them.

I still don't undertand why just creating an account creates so much overhead. What is CPanel doing? I don't doubt what you're saying, I'm just trying to get my 3 remaining brains cells around it.

At a limit of 5 CPanels, it just seems to me that you have a superSDX not a reseller plan. No?

[Vin DSL]

At a limit of 5 CPanels, it just seems to me that you have a superSDX not a reseller plan. No?

SuperSDX - SDXr - SSDX - SDXPro

Heh!

Have you thought of a name yet?

[JPC-Greg]

Maybe we need two more, a super sized reseller, limited to 25 resolds perhaps. And a seperate super sdx , no resolds just horsepower.

What about that route, what pricing are you hoping for on plans like these and with what types of offerings?

[JPC-Greg]

SuperSDX - SDXr - SSDX - SDXPro

Heh!

Have you thought of a name yet?

nope not yet, still working out the details

[JPC-Masood]

Yes, I have always thought them as two separate plans. Super SDX, and Super Reseller plans. Where Super SDX is just one regular cpanel account with massive power (say 5 accounts per server) and similarly Super Reseller is again just 5 resellers per server.

Now if someone from these 5 overloads the server, they surely will need to go to a high-end dedicated server, not just an entry level dedicated server.

Also when discussing this topic, keep in mind that Super whatever account will be on an internal jaguarpc fully-automatic and proactively managed server. If you compare that to a dedicated server + backups + managed services (still lacking fully automatic), the price is way below any dedicated server even at $150.

Just my two cents

[Gwaihir]

Same feeling here: "super SDX" and "super reseller" shouldn't be mixed on one server (and thus not be one and the same plan).


As for "can't go below 2 by definition".. I'm not so sure. As I've explained before and Masood now hints at too: regardless of the number of users you share it with, being on an "internal jaguarpc fully-automatic and proactively managed server" is a product offering in its own right, with its own advantages and disadvantages. [Advantage: full proactive management at a great price level (due to standardization of the offer). Disadvantage: extremely limited options to customize for a $150 package.] I would be very surprised if you couldn't find a market for such standardized fully managed servers.

[Doug Nelson]

I'd definitely prefer to be on a "no-resellers-allowed" server.

[the_ancient]

Yes, I have always thought them as two separate plans. Super SDX, and Super Reseller plans. Where Super SDX is just one regular cpanel account with massive power (say 5 accounts per server) and similarly Super Reseller is again just 5 resellers per server.

Now if someone from these 5 overloads the server, they surely will need to go to a high-end dedicated server, not just an entry level dedicated server.

Also when discussing this topic, keep in mind that Super whatever account will be on an internal jaguarpc fully-automatic and proactively managed server. If you compare that to a dedicated server + backups + managed services (still lacking fully automatic), the price is way below any dedicated server even at $150.

Just my two cents

And we have a winner......

[Rob]

SuperSDX - SDXr - SSDX - SDXPro

Heh!

Have you thought of a name yet?

How about 'The Hybrid'?

[JPC-Greg]

Well if its just a super resller and a seperate super sdx, is there really a hybrid anything?

[Vin DSL]

Yes, I have always thought them as two separate plans. Super SDX, and Super Reseller plans. Where Super SDX is just one regular cpanel account with massive power (say 5 accounts per server) and similarly Super Reseller is again just 5 resellers per server.

Logical and interesting...



While that concept is MUCH easier to wrap your Vulcan mind around, I think Q - I mean the Chief - was talking about coming up with a Hybrid.

As he said, perhaps we need two more - and you HAVE come up with two more, a.k.a. SuperSDX and SuperReseller - and they make perfect sense.

However, if I'm reading the OP correctly, the Chief is thinking 'outside the box' on this one, hence, logic and commonsense will NOT necessarily address the BeyondSDX concept, if you will.

To wit, we are STILL left with the same question...

How do we marry SuperSDX and SuperReseller into a single product, e.g. SuperHybrid?