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  1. 01-24-2008, 10:44 AM #1
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    Shared Server cPanel and PHP Upgrades

    This is feedback thread for this announcement.

    Masood N. | Chief Technical Officer
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  2. 01-24-2008, 01:35 PM #2
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    Now this doesn't affect me since I am on a VPS, but HOW sure are you about the change to suPHP not affecting anything?

    Reason I ask is that I run suexec on my VPS and everything works great, but I decided to try switching to suPHP since it is more secure...

    It was fine with my Wordpress and CMSMadeSimple sites BUT on two of my forums (SMF), both my MediaWiki sites, and my Drupal site, it caused major issues... I checked the permissions and such and nothing was above 755.

    I switched back to PHPSuExec and everything worked fine!

    Maybe I had something setup wrong, but MediaWiki especially is really 'fragile' when it comes to the smallest differences! I've tried moving MW between my home dev server and my VPS which both have the SAME down to the minor version of MySQL and PHP and yet it still went haywire...
    -Daniel

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    My scripts never have bugs. They just develop random features.
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  3. 01-24-2008, 01:53 PM #3
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    Im still running the standard PHP - PHPSuExec and suPHP seem so complicated.

    Oh Daniel do you think that PHPSuExec could have caused the installer not to function properly?
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  4. 01-24-2008, 01:58 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Oh Daniel do you think that PHPSuExec could have caused the installer not to function properly?
    Hmmm GOOD QUESTION!

    EDIT: reread the post... Guess I could try it!
    -Daniel

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  5. 01-24-2008, 01:59 PM #5
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    Daniel,

    It might be one of those issues that cPanel brings in with such updates and we have to spend time to prepare our own fix/patch.

    If you still would like to try suPHP, let me know the issue and I can take a look at it.

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  6. 01-24-2008, 02:02 PM #6
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    Thanks Masood... I will go try again in a few... Last I tried was about a month ago... Since that HUGE slough of cPanel updates it may have changed...

    EDIT:

    I just went a enabled suPHP and everything was fine... EXCEPT PHPBB3!

    My phpBB3 forums are throwing up internal server errors now... I am logging in to check the permissions now...

    MediaWiki fared fine this time!

    EDIT #2:

    I just checked and the highest permissions was octal 0755 on directories, octal 0644 on scripts, and octal 0600 on config files

    What they were when I was running under SuExec.

    EDIT #3:

    Switched back to CGI with SuExec and now no internal server errors on PHPBB3! Hmmm I'm gonna play with this some more!
    Last edited by Daniel_DBS; 01-24-2008 at 02:15 PM.
    -Daniel

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  7. 01-24-2008, 09:15 PM #7
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    I assume that since suPHP is to or already is implemented on servers, performance hit has been accounted for now that eAccelerator no longer functions?

    Just curious
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  8. 01-24-2008, 09:50 PM #8
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    3. eAccelerator and ionCube PHP Loader will be available server wide, alongwith Zend Optimizer. If you use custom php.ini, you will need to update it by downloading it from your control panel so that eAccelerator can load for your scripts as well.
    http://www.jaguarpc.com/support/kbase/817.html
    Good luck
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  9. 01-24-2008, 09:52 PM #9
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    eAccelerator doesn't work with suPHP... not in any environments or customizations I've seen:
    http://eaccelerator.net/ticket/273

    also if you run phpinfo() on an suPHP server - the eAccelerator portion says:
    Caching Enabled false
    Optimizer Enabled false
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  10. 01-24-2008, 09:57 PM #10
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    Ask Masood about it!
    Good luck
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  11. 01-24-2008, 09:58 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Ask Masood about it!
    Hahaha... Good Answer!
    -Daniel

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  12. 01-24-2008, 10:05 PM #12
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    Looking forward to it. Either way I think suPHP is a great enhancement and I've used it on my other VPSes since cpanel11 release (and phpsuexec prior to that).
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  13. 01-24-2008, 11:24 PM #13
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    We just missed that completely. The cache and optimizer is indeed disabled. So no need for eAccelerator. We'll remove that from the config.

    Thanks for bringing it up.

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  14. 01-24-2008, 11:48 PM #14
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    That sounds good. Thanks for the clarification Masood.
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  15. 01-25-2008, 09:20 AM #15
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    Daniel I am using suPHP on my VPS and all is fine with phpBB3 (as you know)! I went from phpsuexec to suPHP and it did not hose the phpBB3 install.
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