internet provider that does not restrict remote smtp servers?

[courtneyny]

hi,

i have been trying to send emails with my jaguar pc address through an earthlink account. it won't work because earthlink doesn't allow you to send emails using remote SMTP servers.

does anyone know an internet service provider that let's you send emails with your jaguar pc address?

thanks for the help, courtney

[gerilya]

Why don't you send your mails through Jag's SMTP server?

[Connie]

Originally posted by gerilya
Why don't you send your mails through Jag's SMTP server?

Because the ISP in this case earthlink will not allow it. It seems that
most major ISPs are blocking the ability to send e-mail thru your own server in
an effort to control Spam.

courtneyny is experiencing a problem that many of us have. I have
used earthlink since early 2000. I don't remember when they decided to block
e-mail thru your own server. Sometime in 2001 or maybe 2002. It happened
so long ago I don't remember the exact date.

courtneyny if sending e-mail thru your sever is that important, I think
your best bet would be to find a local ISP rather than a Nation Wide ISP like
earthlink. I use 2 ISPs and both block mail that is not sent through their
server.

There are a lot of post about this issue if you want to search for it.
Based on the post I have seen about this problem it seems that most
Nation Wide ISPs are following eathlinks trend.

courtneyny Your other option would be to send all e-mail thru CP. You can
do that. But to send using a -mail client such as OL you have to
send thru your ISP.

[Vin DSL]

Originally posted by courtneyny
...does anyone know an internet service provider that let's you send emails with your jaguar pc address?...

Well, yeah, but it won't do you any good unless you live in Arizona. My ISP is Cybertrails.com and they allow it. Actually, they are the ISP, but I'm on Qwest DSL lines. I know you can send mails on Qwest too, so that's the route I would go, but for all I know you live in Hong Kong...

[Vin DSL]

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http://www.qwest.com/pcat/small_busi...03_3_3,00.html

This is absolutely, positively, the best friggin' deal going on DSL anywhere, bar none. I told one of my kids about it, and he dumped his Qwest residential DSL last month. I'm going to dump my ISP shortly too.

Consider this my gift to you for today...

[lookout]

As clssam inferred, most of the big nationwide ISPs force you to send out email via their own smtp servers now. A smaller, local ISP would be your best bet, if this is major concern for you.

This article from the Verizon site might be of interest to you as to why things have become this way now.

[gerilya]

clssam, what you are saying is that ISPs block TCP connections on 25 port, right?
Then SSH tunneling should help.
Or may be we can ask support to open another port for SMTP connections for all who needs it.

[mattsiegman]

Compueserve doesn't have the gay port block.

[Connie]

Originally posted by gerilya
clssam, what you are saying is that ISPs block TCP connections on 25 port, right?
Then SSH tunneling should help.
Or may be we can ask support to open another port for SMTP connections for all who needs it.

Right. Check the article that lookout provided a link to.

[gerilya]

To clssam:
This is rather long article. What's your point?

[Connie]

Originally posted by gerilya
To clssam:
This is rather long article. What's your point?

clssam, what you are saying is that ISPs block TCP connections on 25 port, right?

"Yes, that is what I'm saying."

My point is that I was trying to provide an answer to your question about ISPs blocking
sending mail thru your server.

The article lookout refereed to is long. It does not deal with the exact problem we
are discussing, at least from what I read, but it does deal with
the fact that major ISPs are blocking port 25, which is related to
this discussion.

Other wise my point was to answer your question about ISPs blocking ports.
Sorry I didn't explain this very well.

Forget lookouts link. The answer to your question is yes, ISPs block port 25.
Will Jag do anything about this I doubt it. Can you tunnel? Possibly. That is
far beyond my ability, but you probably can.

This has been an ongoing problem for many months. Today you can send mail thru
your sever tomorrow you can't. ISPs do not announce when they start blocking
your ability to send mail thru your server they just start blocking.

Then people start complaining. However the problem is not a Jag problem. Jag does
not prevent you from sending e-mail thru your server.

[gerilya]

I am tunneling both rsync and cvs. Took me a while to work it out with the last, though. I am sure there is a way to do it with the mailing too.

But, courtneyny, how many e-mails are you going to send out monthly, anyway? There are still sites that provide e-mail accounts with SMTP. Some of them, for free. Take www.softhome.net, for example.
I think, if you sign up, you can use their server to send e-mails with your own Return Address.

There are hostings that give an SMTP access thru custom ports. May be Jag will not do anything about it, but for me, it just doesn't make any sense to lose a customer for that. It's not like opening a custom port would affect server performance, security or anything for that matter.

[lookout]

One of gerilya's comments made me wonder whether courtneyny really needed to use Jaguar's SMTP servers to get the desired results.

I think it appropriate to point out that it IS possible to send email using your Jaguar return address through an ISP like Earthlink, using Earthlink's SMTP servers. If that is all that is desired, the following info should help you get your email client configured:

In your email client settings, make sure that the outgoing mail is set to smtp.earthlink.net (or whatever Earthlink recommends for as the smtp server for your Earthlink account)

The outgoing mail server should be set to require authentication, and its settings set to log on using your Earthlink account name (such as UserName@earthlink.net) and Earthlink password.

The incoming mail POP3 should be set to YourJaguarDomain.com (assuming a .com domain).

The incoming mail server should be set to the desired Jaguar based email account (UserName@YourJaguarDomain.com) and password.

Both send and reply addresses should be set to the desired Jaguar based email account.

This will give the appearance of email sent via the desired Jaguar based email account, even though it's actually sent via Earthlink's SMTP. The recipient will see the Jaguar based email account as the reply address. Incoming email will be received as always via Jaguar's Pop3 account.

[courtneyny]

lookout you are rulin'!

man, your fix worked!

i don't know much about robots. you should see the amount of support tickets and time i spent on the horn with earthlink tech support.

thank you! my small business thanks you too!

courtney

[lookout]

Glad to hear it helped. I think some of us initially read more into the question than you had intended.

Earthlink tech support usually gets better reviews than other big ISPs. But any dealings with tech support can quickly become an exercise in time and frustration. I guess it's the nature of the beast.

What's your interest in robots? Stopping them from indexing portions of your site, attracting them, or something else? If you haven't already, check into making a robots.txt file for your site. There's plenty of stuff on the net about them. I don't have any good links on the subject that I can recommend offhand, but maybe someone else here can point you to one.