new to vps and over my head.

[zanerzack]

I am new to running a vps and I know I’m over my head.
This is very confusing but I’m determined to learn each step as I go.

First off, I plan on only using my vps for my sites only.
currently on my "soon to be old host", I have 5 domains and a complete website for each domain.

I want to transfer each site and point each domain to my new vps


My first question is the hostname.
Currently in my cpanel I have vps.pabucks.com as my hostname.
pabucks.com is one of my domains I have a complete web site for.

So should I buy a new domain to be as my hostname, or is it ok to use
one of my web sites domain as my hostname.

[Vin DSL]

Interesting question?

I take it you're primarily a hunter, not a fisherman... or not...

I've *thought* about how I would do this, but never came up with a concrete solution. Personally, I gravitate towards simply using a static IP for the placeholder. However, since I've been here, my 'dedicated' IP has changed three times, so IPs aren't as static as one would think...

So, that leaves you with making a decision which domain to use -- and I *think* your idea is as good as any -- a new domain for your hostname, so called.

Interesting! Maybe someone else will pop in here with an answer...

[Vin DSL]

Heh! Here you go...

http://whois.domaintools.com/jaghostname.com

Maybe I'll do this...

http://whois.domaintools.com/jagplaceholder.com

[zanerzack]

Thanks for the reply,
And yes I took my kids fishing last weekend and will again this weekend.
So yes I do fishing.
Outdoors stuff, hunting, fishing, camping, hiking builds good character in kids.

Kids with nothing to do are kids in trouble.

Anyway, I JUST DON’T WANT TO SCREW EVERYTHING UP, AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AS I GO.

I'm almost to the point where I would pay someone to set everything up for me, But....... I know if I keep at it I will get it.

So my first challenge is to get the hostname correct.
I would simply stick with my current vps.pabucks.com as my hostname
but I’m not sure if this is the correct thing to do.


Also another problem, I see soon to come, this nameserver dns thingy.
I have my domains with ipoweweb, I go to https://manage.opensrs.net
to manage them, anyway there is no where to add an ip, just the

Server Hostname
Primary:
Secondary:

the ip is added next to the Hostname but there is nothing there
for me to edit the ip.
make any sense?

I know nothing about name servers and this dna thingy, oops dns.

so I can add a Server Hostname but no ip.

[Vin DSL]

Ah, okay, I see...

At this point, the terminology and so forth are new to you -- indeed VPS in general. So, when you said hostname, I thought you were talking about a placeholder, and I went down the wrong path... no pun intended...

You basically need a 'dutch uncle' to walk you through the setup -- and there are plenty of them around here. And, some of them are actually Dutch!

Since I don't have VPS, and don't have a CP sitting in front of me, I'll bow out. Don't worry! Someone else will come along and throw you a rope -- they always do...

[ehost]

Hello, as for the host name, choose something on your main domain. so something like earth.pabucks.com. it really doesn't matter what you choose, it can even be your current host name vps.pabucks.com. For the transfer you will want to set up your dns on the old server to check for changes often. Do this 24-48 before you move your accounts:

1. Login to old server as root
2. cd /var/named
3. perl -pi.bak -e "s/14400/900/g" *.db
4. /etc/rc.d/init.d/named restart

this changes the ttl from 24hrs to 15 minutes.

when you are ready to transfer your sites do this:

1. Login to new server's WHM, click on copy multiple accounts
2. Fill out the info

when your transfers have completed, you can point your sites to your new server from your old server while dns is propagating:

1. Login to old server as root
2. cd /var/named
3. perl -pi.bak -e "s/[oldip]/[newip]/g" *.db
4. /etc/rc.d/init.d/named restart

This will point all the sites to the newip. if you have a site on a different ip then your shared ip you will have to edit the file for that domain manually.

[rainboy]

Woah Ehost, the guy is a beginner to VPS And might actualy not have any root access to his previous hosting provider.

What Ehost ment is to change the Time to Live of your DNS records to such a short time as possible, so that changes are picked up faster. After the move he points the DNS on the old host to your new IP's so everything should straight point to your new server.

One thing is important before this. You have to make a choice:

- are you going to run your own nameservers or are you going to use JPC's

If using JPC's nameservers you don't have the freedom you would normally have on a VPS, but it might make things easier for a starter, only you have to tell JPC about all changes. (if i read your post its quite static if it comes to websites, so that doesnt seem to be a huge problem).

Ehost sollution will work if you go from a VPS or Dedicated to another VPS, but reading your post i assume you don't have the access to do things he said.

Btw, you can ask JPC to help you moving the websites.

Kind regards,
Patrick

p/s you could also just ask support to help you out on moving everything.

[jason]

The manage.opensrs.com address is for your domain registrar. I assume that you probably registered the domain names with iPower and that's why you don't see the difference, but the difference is there and it is significant.

First, in order to use a domain name, you need to buy the rights to it from a registrar. There are a few hundered registrars out there to choose from. I equate this to buying long distance service after you establish your phone line (if you are in the US, at least). In your case, you registered the name through a reseller of OpenSRS. The manage.opensrs.net site is for managing the domain registration (contat info and DNS server names). This won't change after you make the switch to JPC (unless you elect to transfer your domains to a new registrar, but that's optional and a topic for another post).

The registrar just manages a list of domain names and DNS servers to handle them. When a request comes in the DNS system directs the requestor to one of the DNS servers that you reference. The DNS servers manage the name to IP address mappings.

When you get your new DNS servers running you'll need to go to that OpenSRS site, register the nameserver IP addresses, and then change the nameservers on your domains to the new servers. As I siad, the actual mapping of names to IP addresses happens in the DNS server itself. Since I don't have a VPS, I can't help you with setting that up.

--Jason

[zanerzack]

You guys are gold.


Ok I will stick with vps.pabucks.com
but that earth.pabucks.com... I like that, don’t know why.........
Ok, ok, ok, No wonder I never figure this chit out, always daydreaming.

Thanks ehost


I will be running my own name servers.
I do plan on building more site of my own in the future
I have no root access or anything like that at ipower (old host).

Thanks rainboy



Jason, awesome stuff, I am going to read your post again and again
see if I can get this MOST critical part correct.

Yes with the ipower and manage.opensrs, I didn’t realize the relationship
but yes I do have a control panel from each. Ipower selling for manage.opensrs.

I will post if I have any trouble.
So count on hearing from me again.
Thanks again guys.
Peace
John.

[jason]

OpenSRS is an accredited registrar that only sells domains through resellers. Evidentally iPower is an OpenSRS reseller.

JPC offers similar registration services through their AletiaNIC site. JPC uses another registrar, eNom. There are also a few hundered other registrars out there, most of whom you can buy from directly. For a full list, see http://www.internic.net.

You can, if you choose, leave your domains registrations at OpenSRS/iPower or transfer them to eNom/AleticNic or any other registrar. When you do the transfer you generally pay a transfer fee to the new registrar, then they perform the transfer (you may have to turn off a lock with your current registrar first, and confirm the change with them as well). After the tansfer the new registrar adds one year on to whatever time you had left on your domain with the old registrar. So if you have 1.5 years left on your registration, you'll have 2.5 years left after the transfer. You won't loose any time, nor should you have any downtime.

--Jason

[minimus]

Hi,

My question is the same of Zanerzack but put otherway:

I think we go over a stage...

I got my vps as psyka.com
Jpc create my account as vps.psyka.com

As admin I created resellers packages and accounts for ex.
reseller: psyka.biz
enduser: psych.net

The all have the DNS propagated

I can to to each control panel and administrate them.

Doing psyka.com and psyka.biz on firefox I see Apache template for both, psych.net is unreachable.

It is like we go over a stage, which one?

Thank you to you to help beginners

[AlexKall]

psych.net is pointed to a search DNS, dont seem to point to your site. (just a guess as i dont know what dns server you're using)

http://dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport...main=psych.net

Don't seem to be JPCs IP either.

[minimus]

Sorry it is ... and it is pointed to p....com

But I think I found the problem I got the message that the service hpptd is down I see to repair that before going further

Thanks a lot

P.S. it has been repaired!