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    Is there any other option than spam assassin on the VPS? I dont find it works all that well....

    Any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabinut View Post
    Is there any other option than spam assassin on the VPS? I dont find it works all that well....

    Any suggestions?
    Well...

    I've found that SA works pretty good, if you screw it down tight enough! I've been running it at 2.5 for quite a while now -- catches most of the spam, and I haven't had any falses.

    My wife uses MS Outlook Express. In MSOE, I set a rule where:
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    Apply this rule after the message arrives
    Where the message body contains 'Spam detection software' 
    Delete it
    Personally, I use web mail (SquirrelMail). With SM, I do a search in the body of the message for the word 'spam' and delete those emails.

    Also, I DO NOT use a 'Catchall' account. Catchalls are spam magnets!
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    I have my accounts set at 3.5 on SA now... I'll try going to 2.5 and see if that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabinut View Post
    I have my accounts set at 3.5 on SA now... I'll try going to 2.5 and see if that helps
    Yeah, just keep cranking it down until you start getting falses, then back it off a tad...

    I've never actually got SA to catch falses. I could probably go tighter than 2.5, but that's been working great for us, so I just left it there -- probably been running it at 2.5 for a year!
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    Use spamcop if you use sendmail (might work on other mailserver programs aswell), its a service that reports spam and you're site can use their database for free, I have senders on my site blocked daily by spamcop. The good thing aswell is that there's nothing to install just configure sendmail to check their database.
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    Wow, 2.5? Mine is set to 5, which Cpanel says is "quite aggressive". I moved it down to 4.5 and also modified the subject to include the score. I'll see if I start getting any false positives.

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    Well I just went from 4.0 to 2.5 as Vin suggests, Lets see how it works. (hoping)

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    I'm down to 2.5 and spam is almost non existent.....
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    When DNS resolution isn''t working well, Spamassassin doesn't make it's outcalls to external databases to see if the URLs are in a database, or the IPs for the sender or the relay are in a database, or the ,,,,,

    Right now, DNS lookups are hosed here at JAG, so all that SPAM is getting through without getting flagged for those very weighty, high point tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexKall View Post
    Use spamcop if you use sendmail (might work on other mailserver programs aswell), its a service that reports spam and you're site can use their database for free, I have senders on my site blocked daily by spamcop. The good thing aswell is that there's nothing to install just configure sendmail to check their database.
    Spamcop is the devil's work. I have had countless problems in the past with a hosting service blocking good mail by their use of Spamcop, but not advising me. That is outrageous.

    Observe the following:
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    A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
    recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

    xxxxx@cwelch.org
    SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined DATA:
    host mail.cwelch.org [168.144.68.74]: 553 sorry, your mailserver [69.73.188.100] is rejected by See http://spamcop.net/
    ======================================== ==========

    Note well the blocked IP ...

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    I don't get it... looks like they advised you???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellthorpe View Post
    Spamcop is the devil's work. I have had countless problems in the past with a hosting service blocking good mail by their use of Spamcop, but not advising me. That is outrageous.

    Observe the following:
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    A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
    recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

    xxxxx@cwelch.org
    SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined DATA:
    host mail.cwelch.org [168.144.68.74]: 553 sorry, your mailserver [69.73.188.100] is rejected by See http://spamcop.net/
    ======================================== ==========

    Note well the blocked IP ...
    Yeah, I'm the only one on my VPS probebly don't work all that way with clients that can report to spamcop from their mail.
    My VPS server:
    www.myfedoraserver.com


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    Anyone here believe in spam assasin's ability enough to have it delete spam email before it even reaches the email accounts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstaley View Post
    Anyone here believe in spam assasin's ability enough to have it delete spam email before it even reaches the email accounts?
    Before it reaches the mail accounts?!?!?

    Yeah, I guess so, sort of... that's why I use mail rules. Technically, the spam reaches the account, but I never look at them.

    One of the best ways, I've found, to get rid of spam is to disable (fail) the 'catchall' account.

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    Did anyone see the article in this weeks eweek mag talking about the heavy level of spam lately? (as much as 69 percent increase)

    Direct result of a highly organized Russian hacker group, using a 70,000 strong peer to peer botnet - seeded with Spam Thru Trojan. 166 countries in all are part of the botnet.

    All I can say is - Scumbags - I hate spam with a passion!

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