Change attach size in Horde mail

[arianetwork]

how can i change email attach size in cpanel ?

[JPC-Sabrina]

It would be helpful to know what type of hosting account you currently have. There could be an additional setting in the actual configuration of your webmail software. Look into that option first and let us know if you need any additional assistance.

[the_ancient]

And what size do you want to change it to? what is set to now?

Email is not a File Transfer System, and should not be used as Such, In fact I wish they would have never allowed Attachments in the first place, but.....

Keep in mind just because you increase the limits in Horde DOES NOT mean other people will be able to receive the message, Most Email Systems will reject messages over 25MB, and some will reject messages over 10MB,

[Ron]

Email is not a File Transfer System, and should not be used as Such, In fact I wish they would have never allowed Attachments in the first place, but.....

Interesting concept. I sort of agree -- but on the other side. I wish they had designed a more robust system for binary from the get-go.

It's very convenient to be able to send a file via a universal format not requiring the recipient to log into myriad systems to fetch it from you

How would you accomplish what email does now?

25 meg is nothing now; I have members who think nothing of uploading 6 and 10 megabyte snapshots. When I started here, my entire site fit in 5 MB.

[the_ancient]

Interesting concept. I sort of agree -- but on the other side. I wish they had designed a more robust system for binary from the get-go.

It's very convenient to be able to send a file via a universal format not requiring the recipient to log into myriad systems to fetch it from you

How would you accomplish what email does now?

25 meg is nothing now; I have members who think nothing of uploading 6 and 10 megabyte snapshots. When I started here, my entire site fit in 5 MB.

25MB is alot when you have to convert it to base64 encoded text and send it via unsecured systems and then transform it back on the other side.

Since Security in Email is Non-existent you should not be sending anything to anyone that in any other circumstance requires them to log into myriad systems to fetch it from you in the first place, Unless your using gpg encrypted mail, which I do not believe Horde supports anyway.

[Ron]

You didn't answer how you'd do it. Don't change the hypothetical please.

There's tons of reasons to send large size binary files, and many of them don't require the overhead of encryption. I can think of a gazillion of times when that would be juuuust fine right off the top of my head. Like people emailing photos, music, videos and much much more.

So, how would you do it? What system would you have created to allow folks to send large unencrypted binary files? Something super convenient and nearly universal?

[the_ancient]

You didn't answer how you'd do it. Don't change the hypothetical please.

There's tons of reasons to send large size binary files, and many of them don't require the overhead of encryption. I can think of a gazillion of times when that would be juuuust fine right off the top of my head. Like people emailing photos, music, videos and much much more.

So, how would you do it? What system would you have created to allow folks to send large unencrypted binary files? Something super convenient and nearly universal?

FTP, Dropbox, Box,net, YouTube, Facebook, Flickr, BitTorrent, HTTP, and the list goes on....

I would never design a system like Email for binary transfer... Email is for text message exchange, not binary transfers. It was never designed for that, nor should it be.

[Ron]

Yeah those other approaches are so much better.

Good thing they're not widely available and free or they surely would have killed off email attachments.

[the_ancient]

Yeah those other approaches are so much better.

Good thing they're not widely available and free or they surely would have killed off email attachments.

Everything I posted is both widely available and free so.... Facebook I believe is the most popular method of sharing photos in the world right now....

Contrast that with Email Attachments which are the most popular method of Spreading Virus's yea lets support attachments

All of this is irrelevant to this topic though

I did not post to get into a debate over email attachments,

the FACT remains that CURRENT technology as IMPLEMENTED does not ALLOW for large attachments, which is what the OP is wanting.

[Ron]

Everything I posted is both widely available and free so.... Facebook I believe is the most popular method of sharing photos in the world right now....

Yes, that was called sarcasm.

The point is that email is the best way devised yet to do all that it does, otherwise any or all of the widely available and free services you mentioned would have killed it by now. I just wish it had been designed in a more extensible fashion.

Time was that email was limited to 1 MB, then 10 MB, now maybe more. It'll be increased again unless there are hard technical limits preventing it.

[the_ancient]

Yes, that was called sarcasm.

The point is that email is the best way devised yet to do all that it does, otherwise any or all of the widely available and free services you mentioned would have killed it by now. I just wish it had been designed in a more extensible fashion.

Time was that email was limited to 1 MB, then 10 MB, now maybe more. It'll be increased again unless there are hard technical limits preventing it.

Storage Space, That is the biggest problem with large attachments, unless your using POP (which I never recommend) all the email is stored on the server, That is one of the reasons it is limited.

Further People that do use Outlook have a Technological Limit to the size of the PST file, and Attachments in mbox and pst those file formats to be huge and inefficient as it increases in size, which is rapidly done when attachments are involved making searching for email impossible

[Ron]

Yup, I've run into the 2GB filesize limit in Outlook 2002... about 9 years ago. Actually my Dad still uses Office XP so he still has Outlook 2002. Reminding him to delete stuff and the Archive functionality work really well to keep the filesize down.

Newer versions than 2002 have a 20 GB limit by default, but can be increased if really necessary. They also have archive functionality.

And FB and Twitter and whatever also have storage requirements just like GMail and YahooMail and Ron'sDomain'sMail, so I don't get the argument there, either.

I also can't understand why you wouldn't want to have a simple, easy to use, convenient, universal method for transferring files because of the potential for viruses. I guess that fb and twitter and bit torrent and even youtube don't have to worry about that kind of thing?

Tell me how you'd do it better than email? With the benefit of hindsight I'd do it better than what we have with a more robust email protocol that required strict sender verification of some type and binary attachments.

There are lots of good ideas out there on how to do these things and I'm sure more could be thought up. It's too bad there's no real driving force behind making a changeover to a more robust standard, kind of the way the FCC forced a changeover to digital TV, huh?

[the_ancient]

Yup, I've run into the 2GB filesize limit in Outlook 2002... about 9 years ago. Actually my Dad still uses Office XP so he still has Outlook 2002. Reminding him to delete stuff and the Archive functionality work really well to keep the filesize down.

Newer versions than 2002 have a 20 GB limit by default, but can be increased if really necessary. They also have archive functionality.

And FB and Twitter and whatever also have storage requirements just like GMail and YahooMail and Ron'sDomain'sMail, so I don't get the argument there, either.

Tell that to the morons I have to deal with "Why cant I get email" Because your mailbox is full you moron.

I also can't understand why you wouldn't want to have a simple, easy to use, convenient, universal method for transferring files because of the potential for viruses. I guess that fb and twitter and bit torrent and even youtube don't have to worry about that kind of thing?

I did not say the others did not have to fight virus's but they have more robust screening than the default email systems do so they are safer...

as far as not wanting to have a simple easy to use universal method of transferring file, I find ssh and/or plain http far easier than email. but that is me

Tell me how you'd do it better than email? With the benefit of hindsight I'd do it better than what we have with a more robust email protocol that required strict sender verification of some type and binary attachments.

There are lots of good ideas out there on how to do these things and I'm sure more could be thought up. It's too bad there's no real driving force behind making a changeover to a more robust standard, kind of the way the FCC forced a changeover to digital TV, huh?

I am not interested in, nor do I plan on redesigning the SMTP Protocal. I am talking about what we have RIGHT NOW, I could care less about wouldda, couldda , shouldaa scenarios. and I sure as hell do not want the government involved....

To be clear I have no love lose for SMTP, I universally hate email in general anyway, I feel it is over used, unsecure and people put far far far too much faith in the system.